Interracial Marriage

To read "hate" into what I have posted is way off base. I never even come close to saying that.

BBob,

 

Do you think all of our ancestors went to hell???

 

No, thank God, that Jesus paid for our sins.. even the ones we are currently unaware of....

 

sorryraying:

 

OK, if I misunderstood Bob, then I apologize.

Interracial relationships in and of themselves have never been a sin. The Biblical issue was always a spiritual one...Israelites were to not marry peoples that did not know God.

That is still our parameter (and, of course, to conduct ourselves within the relationship in a Christlike way...with regard to love, the physical stuff, fathfulness, keeping our vows if married, love, etc.).

 

Which brings me (sorry, broken record) to why I made the post drawing a distinction between racism (hate) and prejudice (separatism).

 

as far as humans go, theres only one race, the human race.

 

Thank you for your honesty, and I don't think you are racist, nor are those in your church that you mentioned. I think a lot of disagreement comes from our ages. Frankly, these things that you claim that most bi-racial children face are not the norm anymore in the greater majority of the country. As for the struggles bi-racial couples face, they are pretty much the same any marriage face. I cannot believe that my marriage is so far from the norm, considering the number of bi-racial couples I know and see. I'm glad to hear you would accept a bi-racial couple in church. Hopefully one will come your way so that you see we are no different from other couples. Again I do not think you are racist, nor do I feel that you have to be PC. I think in these situations brutal honesty is the best course of action. It is the only way we learn from each other and grow. My sincere hope is that in the future when you think of interracial couple you will see something like my husband or I, or any other healthy relationship, and not the sad situation that befell your own family. God bless always....:wavey:

 

My apologies to everyone on this thread. I should of kept my mouth shut and not entered into this discussion. Again, I am sorry.

BBob,

 

No need to apologize. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, and that does not make you a racist, just human. Like I said before I hope that one day you can see interracial couples the same as any other. This topic hits close to home for me obviously, but I'm starting to learn to just let go and let God. I know that God does not frown upon me, or my marriage, or my children so I'm not gonna care if someone on the BB does. I figure I'm not gonna change someone's mind by arguing with them.

 

Yes, hatred for other people IS a sin. The Bible says if we hate our brother it's the same as murder.

 

You are right...about "hate"
For example I hate racism..

But even if racism isn't driven by hate for fellow man, it is driven by self righteous pride..

 

I'm pretty sure the LORD hates pride, and we are supposed to do the same. (Prov. 6:16-19; 8:24)

Ed

 

One statement that one poster made on this board that really bothers me, touched on the idea that someone could be welcomed in one's church but not in one's home. That just doesn't sit well with me, for some reason, and seems to reek of hypocrisy, IMO.

When my wife and I were about to be married, I knew that one of her first cousins was married obviously 'inter-racially'. Some of the cousin's family, including the mother, was not particularly pleased with this, to the point of not even wanting the spouse to be seen in their home. Sight unseen, and not even knowing the individuals involved, I pronounced to my wife-to-be that tehy would be welcome by me, in my home, anytime. She agreed, FTR, and seemed to be somewhat eased when I said this, I guess having seen a bit of the 'racism', involved, with some of her family.

I had the privilege of meeting both the cousin and the spouse, a couple of months ago (at the aunt's 90th birthday, who is now ill, but thankfully, has 'softened' a bit over this, over the years) and told them both separately and together what I had said to Peggy almost nine years ago.

I meant it then; I mean it now. I seriously doubt that it will likely happen, because of the geographical distance between our two families, but the offer is open (and returned by them), and I said and hoped that someday, we could get together in one or the other's home.

My questions asked near the opening of the thread still are unanswered. What did Jesus, Paul, Noah, Moses, et al. actually "look like"?

Ed

 

Haven't read the whole thread and don't intend to.

SFIC, I think this a prohibition against international marriage, not interracial. This prohibition is repeated in the NT by Paul, who states that we should not be unequally yoked with unbelievers (Christians are an holy nation).

I think this principal could be justly applied in civil matters as well. I think there should be a prohibition against marrying non-citizens for the very reasons Joshua stated.

 

Wow, what a way to spin the issue to bring it into 2007...

If we take this literally, it would give us the right to be prejudiced against non-citizens... say, I don't know... the hispanics that are coming into the US...

Around here the hatred for hispanics (legal and illegal) is staggering even in churches...

The new racism is hispanic hatred, fueled by debates about illegal immigration...

The problem isn't the debates... it is ignorant people that fail to identify the word "illegal"... around here, any hispanic is automatically labelled "illegal" by ignorant folk...

The problem God had with other nations, was not the people, but the different religions that would be brought into the nation of Israel.

This is the same reason I am against a Christian marrying a Non-Christian.
Religious purposes...

And since America is not a theocracy, the rules for not marrying non-citizens do not apply in this case...

We as Christians are a holy nation... so I agree with Aaron that non-citizens (the lost) of the holy nation should not marry citizens of the holy nation.(the saved).

But to make it a case that applies to earthly citizenship, is null and void, since we no longer have a earthly nation that is a theocracy...

One day we will when Christ sets up his earthly kingdom... (Of course I am post-mill) at that point I will agree with Aaron in the civil points...

 

Who was that command given to? "Thou shalt not marry outside thy race"?

To the Nation Israel.


The Church is not Israel. The Church is not a nation.
Back in that day, Israel was commanded not to have anything to do with the neighboring countries, much less intermarry. Why? Because they were heathens.

I'm white. Caucasian. Krackersaurus Rex, if you will. I'd rather marry outside my race if she's saved rather than an unsaved white woman. We are not to be yoked with non-believers. Back in OT times, "non-Jewish = non-believers".

 

Because back then, to marry outside the race = to marry a non-believer.

 

The very fact that you felt it necessary to tell your spouse that they would be welcome in your home, tells me that others around you would not welcome them.

I want you to know that I know you were referring to me and you are wrong and always seem to think the worst about someone. Blacks have stayed in my home and were welcome. My daughter was a basketball player and some of the players were black. The entire team stayed at my home several times. Now years have passed but they still come here to visit and are welcome. You have one of the worst attitudes of saying the worst, instead of thinking you did not understand the statement. Again, to not want my daughter to marry a black, still stands because of the life they would have to endure. Also, the family would have to endure also. You are so superior to everyone else that sometimes makes me ill. If anyone on here says because I feel as I do, that is hatred, then you are flat out wrong also.


BBob,