Invitation or Summons

There is something wrong with the logic that allows human response to divine invitation. This is a common error made by some who try to understand theology in human terms.
We must understand that man exists in his own realm, but that too is under the sovereignty of God. It is called permissive will. Man performs all his evil deeds within his own realm, but God remains the sovereign ruler. The universe functions according to its own nature, but God has been seen to interfere with that nature. He alone has that right.

Cheers,

Jim

 

You cannot possibly have a quality bible study while doing it between posts. Does God not deserve your full attention? I'm glad my pastor does not study the bible while arguing on a forum.

 

:laugh: Who would offer ribs to someone with their mouth wired shut? Only an Id-10-t. Is that how you view God, someone doing something that makes no sense?

What does refuse mean?

re·fuse 1 (r-fyz)v. re·fused, re·fus·ing, re·fus·es
v.tr.1. a. To indicate unwillingness to do, accept, give, or allow: She was refused admittance. He refused treatment.
b. To indicate unwillingness (to do something): refused to leave.

2. To decline to jump (an obstacle). Used of a horse.

 

According to you, anything except Calvinism is heresy. And as long as you have Bob backing you up you can say anything you want.

Bob just deleted my posting so I guess I can only attack people who you Calvinists consider to be heretics. You can say what you want about Calvin, but I have made my viewpoint known, and I stand by it.

So you say. I disagree!

That's alright, I don't worship Arminius. And, I doubt either him or you will be tossing me anywhere.

 

Dr. Bob doesn't need me to defend him. His actions over the long term attest to the quality of his character.

That being said, I have observed and interacted with Dr. Bob over the last eight years on BB, and I have found him to be extremely fair and tolerant of other's views, even when he finds them abhorrent (he'll usually express that in no uncertain terms when that happens).

He is one of the most credible people here, and I say that as one who has quite a few theological differences with him. Even when he is disagreeing with me (which is quite often), he has been quite gentlemanly and does not use his moderating powers to take unfair advantage.

I find him to be a very impressive individual and look forward to knowing him face-to-face in the fullness of God's kingdom.

 

I agree Dr. Bob does do a great job here. But, he can get fired up when it comes to D.O.G. issues. Do we just write off any influence of the "General Baptist" in our history because we may not agree with them? Are they just "so called" Baptist?

 

Isn't there a forum on this board just for polls???? One every once in a while by an occasional poster is fine but there is way to many in this section by the same poster.

Could a responsible moderator move these polls to the forum for polls?

 

Ever receive a PM from him?

 

I'm sure I have, but not recently.

Are his PMs different than his public posts?

 

Then why the lengthy post?

I wasn't attacking Bob, just stating the fact that this board, and him in particular, has different rules concerning reformed theology and those who are not reformed.

Do you think if a non-Calvinist started as many threads as Luke does on the other side of the coin, it would be tolerated here? I don't.

I though this was a Baptist board, not a Reformed Baptist board.

 

Pretty much settles the question, don't it!

 

I voted "summons." From God's perspective, it is a command.

However, it is also an invitation in human context. For instance, a Christian could invite another person to obey God's command.

 

I've only read the first pages of responces.... posts add up quickly!

Does it really matter whether I respond to an invitation or a summons?

In the end it's a choice, believe or perish!

Rob

 

Because you have suggested he is not fair... And you have not been around here nearly as long as others. I wanted to offer my opinion here for those who have not been around as long as I have.

As a non-Reformed person, I haven't seen this at all. Calling Calvin a heretic is not the same thing as referring to someone as a "so-called Baptist." Non-Baptists are not necessarily heretics.

Yes.

 

What gets me, as I read through this thread, is that whether it's an invitation or a summons...the scripture provided for both points of view indicate the option to refuse.