Is America Really Free

No wonder this country is in such a mess.

You seem to equate freedom with your "relative" happiness and bank account.

Freedom my friend is the absence of government coercion.

An example. The income tax is unconstitutional, (yes it is) yet you pay it anyway. Do what's right as in resist and you get pain. Do what's wrong as in giving in to thugs using "color of law" you get a refund check.

Which do you prefer, pain or pleasure? I think we all know the route you follow now. :smilewinkgrin:

You don't care about the global scam that is the centralized bank and fractional reserve banking because you can still do what you like???

What about the others? What others? The others that have not been so lucky as you. The ones that had their savings looted by inflation, or the people that lost their pensions or their homes or their property?

Don't you even care about them? I get angry and upset when anyone is robbed of his labor or property or denied his rights or even his life. So how is it you don't?

Because you're well off and comfortable, I almost forgot.

No worries cuz I'm fat and happy!

 

For one thing today's citizens don't need to be coerced all that much.

Today's citizens like Pavlov's dogs are conditioned to obey the state and all the little tin pot globalist minnions that hate and fear the idea of individual freedom that make it up.

Today's citizens have to be the most dumbed down drugged up misguided submissive generation ever.

But what can we expect from a school system that has been turned into a big (global) government indoctrination center. With UNESCO doing the indoctrinating?

Explain it to me how our minds are free when the United Nations are in charge of indocrinating our youth? Conditioning them to be good global citizens instead of good American citizens. Is America free? No most certainly it is not.

 

Even though your choices are limited. When you vote you are given a choice between globalist number 1 and globalist number 2. Again which do you prefer, a left wing NWO or a right wing NWO?

Probably not. The closest we'll come to being free on this earth is having a limited constitutional government. And we'll never have that again so long as people like you keep believing you are powerless in the face of a corupt government.

No kidding.

More than likely.

You have no duty to your country?

There it is I knew if you kept typeing long enough you'd expose your true feelings. There is always going to be people trying to ripp us off, this all the reason you need (evidently) to keep letting them do it!

It's also a weapon in the right hands. Say for instance an unelected parasitical elite that controls a global fiat money system.

Probably for the same reason our founding fathers did. Why are you so set against holding crooks accountable for their actions against you and your kin?

Don't you love your family enough to want to protect them from common parasites?

It would be one thing if we were talking about sound money system here but we are not. We are talking about fiat money system that can easily be manipulated to benefit a handful at the expence of many. I'm starting to suspect that you may be an apologist for these unelected parasites.

You are begining to sound like it.

I view this as a good thing because from the sounds of it we'd all be obediently bowing at the alter of the fiat financiers if you did.

You might if you joined the fight against the unelected parasitical elite who control the fiat money system instead of making excuses for them and their crimes.

Think of how much more you could donate if we had a constitional government and sound monetary system. One in which you weren't forced to pay a tax you do not owe on the thin air our government borrowed from a private banking cartel at interest.

I try to educate people about the fiat money system that's set up to rob us blind and "leave us homeless in the land our fathers conquered".

Yeah me too.

Uh, you just told me of your personal circustances. So, yes I do know.

Of course I do to you. I believe in individualism, a constitutional government and a sound money system. One that cannot be manipulated by a handful of jokers in expensives suits. You believe in making excuses and letting crooks get get away with their crimes against us. I also believe in state's rights. You seem to believe it's all about you and your relative freedom to make choices between those you are allowed to choose from.

So, of course I look silly to you.

Why are you still waiting to hear from me what you as an informed citizen of these United States should already know? How is it you do not?

Now you're the one looking silly :smilewinkgrin:

 

The trees must be blocking your view of the forrest then. I'm still waiting for you to tell me why you seem so bent on protecting common thieves.

 

You know it is kind of hard to explain the freedoms we have lost to people that cannot diferentiate between God given rights and government granted privileges.

You sound alot like one of those people to me.

So tell me, why should I waste my time trying to explain something you probably wouldn't even understand?

And instead of this "You are talking in generalities and platitudes."

Why not reply to my post point by point like I did with your's?

 

Yet to hear most folks around here tell it Jesus only freed us from sin so we can unquestioningly obey the commands of anyone that poses as one of our leaders.

Whether that person has lawful authority over us or not. Most of our leaders today are acting well beyond their lawfull authority by either ignoring the law or subverting it.

I may be shot or imprisoned for appealing to the higher power (the law) as the bible instructs. Does that make me more or less free than those who obey corupt unlawful leaders?

Will I get a better seat in heaven if I obey the orders of unlawful leaders like the "men" here tell me I must do to be a "good Christain" or will I get a better seat in heaven if I speak the truth about them and refuse to obey their unlawful orders?

 

No, I started a thread that asks the question "is America free". You haven't answered that question. Well I guess you did in a "relative" sort of way letting us all know that you are free to choose from the choices hand picked for you.

The black helicopters can be seen flying over Smyrna Tennessee about any time of day or night. Come on over and visit some time I'd be more than happy to point them out for you. You can try and take pictures but be careful the police and military don't care much for people being free to photograph them. :smilewinkgrin:

Apparently someone told them the first amendment doesn't give citizens the right to report on what they are doing in our skies, cities or towns.

Fat and "relatively" happy cats certainly are complacent cats. Thanx for making that one point so abundantly clear for us! :thumbs: