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Is Christ a mere expression?

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Dale-c, Mar 10, 2008.

  1. Dale-c

    Dale-c Active Member

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    This is an excellent article by my friend Reed Huestis from California.

    http://www.christianconstitutionalist.com/articles/20080301.htm

     
  2. PastorSBC1303

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    For the unbeliever it is a mere expression, and in reality believers should expect this as they are living as they should without Christ.

    The real problem is when believers live in such a way.
     
  3. Dale-c

    Dale-c Active Member

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    I agree it should be expected but I would like to ask:

    If an unbeliever slanders your wife, would you at least say something to them?

    I hear unbelievers use profane and blasphemous language all the time and I never say anything about it.
    I am not saying anyone has to say anything about it BUT if you are going to get upset if someone calls a black person a nigger or degrades a lady etc then we should be that much more upset when people blaspheme the name of Christ.
     
  4. J.Wayne

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    Here in lies the problem. Why should it be expected and condoned? You havejust as much right to stand up against what you hear than those who use those words.

    This is what's wrong with the world today...too many people sitting back and condoning what they know is wrong.

    This is not directed only to Dale-c but every one! I for one think it is about time that we get up off our duffs and make a difference.
     
  5. Dale-c

    Dale-c Active Member

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    I never said it should be condoned. Only expected.
    The unbeliever who profanes the name of Christ should also expect the believer to be offended at such.
     
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    Dale-c, the metaphor Jesus uses in John 6 that "I AM the Bread of Life" runs so deep in this discussion.

    Until a believer gets that, Jesus will remain a mere expression. That's why I like John Piper's motto:

    "God is most glorified in us, when we are most satisfied in Him."
     
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    Yes. We cannot expect the world to behave as spirit indwelt believers. They do not know Christ. The lost will always behave as the lost.
     
  8. J.Wayne

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    What are expectations? And again why should we expect such?
     
  9. pinoybaptist

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    The ACLJ should file a test case on this, you know.

    Like, if a black person gets called the n-word, then this person has the right to be upset, and sue.

    The neo-nazis' rights not to be discriminated upon are protected by law.

    Why shouldn't those who are so vocal in the airwaves about being Christians find a way to file a test suit against those who use the Name of the Lord in vain ?
     
  10. J.Wayne

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    pinoy, that would be fantastic but I do not see it happening, because the expectations of Christians are not high enough for it to ever come around. It's simply too easy to say that it is expected and do nothing about it.

    This is where it is then condoned.

    I, for one, would love to be involved in a law suit, fighting for my rights as a Christian.
     
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    I can`t stand the way that what we would term as swear words are `bleeped` out of TV programmes, but the name of Our Lord is so often used as a curse word with no sign of any censorship.:tear:
    Gwyneth
     
  12. Dale-c

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    I am not sure about the UK but here a lot of people will get upset if you use a word synonymous with dung (which is used in the KJV Bible) but they will overlook the flippant use of God's name.

    I am not sure what the proper response is to profanity from Christians.
    I will say this: if we do speak out against anyting, we should speak out against blasphemy.

    I am not sure I could prove from scripture any particular reaction to such.

    But don't get offended when someone mentions cow manure only to be indifferent when someone takes God's name in vain.

    I am not accusing anyone here of doing that but I do know it happens.
     
  13. Rex77

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    Most of the time they don't know they are saying it.

    I have found this works to call to the attention of someone who takes God's name in vain.

    When someone says "God Almighty"!!! I say "yes he is"
    they usually say what? I reply "He sure is Almighty"
     
  14. Justlittleoldme

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    You are right about that. But then, since we do get it, we should make an effort to help others get it too.

    I love my daughter very much. You, I am sure do not love my daughter like I do. BUT if you say something profane about my daughter I WILL let you know about it. I am just not going to ignore it. By the time I am done you WILL "get it."

    It is a shame we don´t feel this strongly when others use the name of our Lord and Savior in vain or as profanity. (*my finger may be pointing at you but there are three pointing back at me too:tear: )
     
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