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Is Grover Norquist an Islamist?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by LadyEagle, May 29, 2005.

  1. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    But being on the wrong side doesn't automatically make Mr. Norquist an Islamofascist or an anti-American sympathizer of them.
     
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    Perhaps not, but defending Islamofascists is but a fine line from being one.
     
  3. LadyEagle

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    Source: http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2001-06-01-grover.htm

    Additional sources which are conservative sources:

    http://michellemalkin.com/archives/000318.htm

    http://www.sianews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2425

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1409031/posts

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=11209

    Source: http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york031903.asp

    And a WND article (which is right-wing, also):

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=27801

    There are many more out there, including a Newsmax article about this which was published last week.

    http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/5/23/191739.shtml
     
  4. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    I had already given a link for the National Review article. You need to pay better attention to what people post, LE. [​IMG]
     
  5. LadyEagle

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    Well, I hope you are paying attention to the links I've posted and are reading them.

    Isn't it interesting that Grover Norquist holds a meeting every Wednesday morning and the major players of the Republican party are in attendance to include Senator Frist, House Majority Leader Dennis Hastert, and others? One source says Grover Norquist isn't one of many players in Washington, DC, he IS the player.

    I posted things unrelated to his Islamic ties so the reader could get the big picture of how he has had his fingers in MANY pies of the Republican Party and has had such a major influence. I've said it before and will say it again - a President of this country is but a puppet on a string - no matter who is sitting in the Oval Office.

    I may have been wrong about Grover Norquist being #2. Perhaps he is #1 and Karl Rove is #2. :(
     
  6. KenH

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    As long as Mr. Norquist is lobbying for the conservative cause I support him in meeting with whomever.

    He also free to try to proselytize others as well if he is a Muslim, just as we can do the same as Christians.
     
  7. LadyEagle

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    KenH Well-Known Member

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    Then stop whining and have him arrested, LadyEagle, if he has violated the law.

    Be a winner, not a whiner.
     
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    I'm not whining - sounding the trumpet of alarm, futile as it is. When they do the Islamic call to prayer in your neighborhood five times a day, perhaps you'll have a different perspective, but it will be too late then.
     
  10. KenH

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    In small town, southern Arkansas? Not likely.
     
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    KenH Well-Known Member

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    Okay. What would you have us and yourself to do?
     
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    Prepare yourself for the inevitable.
     
  13. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, LE, I can't do that. I am neither a fatalist nor a quitter.

    It's as I said, you need to be a winner, not a whiner.

    Just remember that ant: There goes another rubber tree plant!

    Just remember the little engine: I think I can, I think I can...
     
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    It happened in a small town in Michigan - Hamtramck, to be exact. Population 23,000.
     
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    Southern Arkansas ain't Yankee land.
     
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    Everyone hide under the nearest rock and cower in fear...the Muslims are coming... :eek: [​IMG]

    Please spare me the melodrama.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
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    Read history. Then tell me what would happen in America if 1 million Muslims in the USA decided to go on jihad to take over this country. Our military is mostly overseas.

    The Whahabi brand of Islam - the most militant kind, spawn of al Qaeda - has been successfully exported from Saudi Arabia. Most of the Islamic Learning Centers and mosques in the USA have been funded with Saudi money. It is this extreme brand of Islam that is just being noticed by the FBI, although it is well rooted in our society, and is the brand of Islam which Grover Norquist is involved with.

    So, answer the question.

    Are you prepared, in the event 1 million Whahabi Muslims decide to go on jihad (the fifth pillar of Islam) in the United States - are you prepared to see your wife and children tortured and then to be beheaded yourself? Or will you denounce Jesus Christ?

    http://216.26.163.62/2003/ss_terror_06_27.html

    http://freedomhouse.org/religion/news/bn2005/bn-2005-01-28.htm

    [ May 31, 2005, 09:00 AM: Message edited by: LadyEagle ]
     
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    What does "Islamist" mean, other than the belief that Islam is superior?
     
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    Definition from Google: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&oi=defmore&q=define:Islamist

    Definitions of Islamist on the Web:

    is a term used to identify a Muslim fundamentalist.
    www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/teach/alqaeda/glossary.html

    advocate of political Islam and a socio-political order based on the Quran.
    www.maoism.ru/alo/glossary.htm

    A person or an organization using Islamic religious precepts to form a political ideology.
    www.careerjournaleurope.com/columnists/styleandsubstance/glossary.html

    Muslim: a believer or follower of Islam
    www.cogsci.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/webwn2.1

    Islamism is a political ideology derived from the conservative religious views of Muslim fundamentalism. It holds Islam is not only a religion, but also a political system that governs the legal, economic and social imperatives of the state.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamist
     
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