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is HCSB ONLY Modern version translated John 3:16 Right?

Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by JesusFan, May 25, 2011.

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  1. JesusFan

    JesusFan Well-Known Member

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    read over on the Puritan Board discussion that the HCSB ONLY one to get it right?

    that Jesus was/is "Unique" Son of God, not the "Only begotten/one and only?"
     
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    Too great a claim. Yep!
     
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    Working off my memory there are a few others:The NET Bible,NJB and a few others because my memory isn't what it used to be.
     
    #3 Rippon, May 25, 2011
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    The question is whether monogenes comes from gennao, meaning to beget ('Only begotten') or from genos, meaning a kind or type ('One-of-a-kind,' 'unique').

    Now I am not inclined automatically to believe everything Don Carson says, but if we agree for the sake of argument that monogenes means 'unique,' in what way is Christ a unique Son? Well, we Christians are sons of God by adoption (Gal 4:5 etc.), which is pretty wonderful, but the Lord Jesus is uniquely a natural Son, begotten by the Father (Psalm 2:7). So He is unique because He is the only begotten Son. Wow! So the KJV and the NKJV are right after all! :thumbs:

    Steve
     
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    I think the translation in this verse accurately reflects what God's Word says.

    I am born of God (praise His name), so Jesus is not the ONLY one born of God in that sense. I love the "only begotten" phrase in the way I memorized it, but thinking thru what I understood about it as a child memorizing, I realize I had it all confused.
     
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    Read the Nicene Creed. It predates all English versions. It predates the English language! It dates to 325AD.

    I believe in one God,
    the Father Almighty,
    maker of heaven and earth,
    and of all things visible and invisible;

    And in one Lord Jesus Christ,
    the only begotten Son of God,
    begotten of his Father before all worlds,
    God of God, Light of Light,
    very God of very God,
    begotten, not made,
     being of one substance with the Father;
    by whom all things were made;
    who for us men and for our salvation
    came down from heaven,
    and was incarnate by the Holy Ghost
    of the Virgin Mary,
    and was made man;
    and was crucified also for us under Pontius Pilate;
    he suffered and was buried;
    and the third day he rose again
    according to the Scriptures,
    and ascended into heaven,
    and sitteth on the right hand of the Father;
    and he shall come again, with glory,
    to judge both the quick and the dead;
    whose kingdom shall have no end.

    And I believe in the Holy Ghost the Lord, and Giver of Live,
    who proceedeth from the Father [and the Son];
    who with the Father and the Son together
    is worshipped and glorified;
    who spake by the Prophets.
    And I believe one holy Catholic and Apostolic Church;
    I acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins;
    and I look for the resurrection of the dead,
    and the life of the world to come.

    It seems that the earliest creed of the early churches believe he was "begotten." :)
     
    #6 TCassidy, May 25, 2011
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    A distinction without a difference. I've always considered begotten to mean "uniquely the one and only Son of God". The phrases are interchangeable, IMO.
     
    #7 InTheLight, May 25, 2011
  8. matthew11v25

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    JesusFan -

    The HCSB received praise for the first phrase of John 3:16: "For God loved the world in this way:"

    Compared to other translations that read: "For God so loved the world"

    The difference being that this part of the verse should be understood to mean the "manner" in which God loved as opposed to "how much" he loved. The traditional rendering of "so loved" could be interpreted potentially as "God loved the world SOOO much" or the HCSB way of "so" meaning the manner (just in older english)
     
    #8 matthew11v25, May 26, 2011
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    The "Only Begotten" debate has been going for a long time, and is not new to the HCSB.
     
    #9 matthew11v25, May 26, 2011
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