Is it really SIN to be angry with God ?

The Bible is very clear that being angry at God and pointing your judgemental finger of blame at him is sin. I have presented scripture for that as well. Again, if Job did not sin, why was he rebuked by God and why did he repent in ashes and dust? Please just answer that question.

Joseph Botwinick

 

RFW, you say you have pointed out that anger is not a sin. Maybe you have satified yourself that it isn't, but you haven't shown me. What does the following scripture from our Lord mean then?

Mat 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.


It seems to me He is giving us one example that anger is sinful. If it is a sin to be angry with your brother without cause, how could it not be a sin to be angry with God. We never have cause to be angry with Him. It seems to me that Christ Himself has refuted you argument.

 

Some of the time I was definitely sinning. However, my point was that most of the time I wasn't. Asking God a question is not a sin. Asking God for an answer to a problem is not the same as accusing Him of being part of the the problem. God allows varioyus things (some of them bad) to come into our lives for various reasons (all of them good). It is difficult to learn the lesson if we don't know what the lesson is.

Actually, I was trying to be inclusive. I was trying to say that ANY negative emotion directed at God is wrong. How can accusing God of being wrong EVER be right? Now if you are saying that it is normal, typical, frequent, and common then, yeah, I completely understand. It is just as wrong to accuse God of error even if it is done in a cold, calm, emotionless manner.

 

If you said that you find yourself angry, you have not sinned, I would agree but, when you add "with God" then you are trying to justify "feeling" that God has done something wrong and you blame Him. There is no justification for that.

There is no real difference here, it is just a matter of degree but the principle is the same.

I agree that it isn't BEING angry but it is in WHO you are angry at.

 

Texas, read Matthew 5:22 again. What you are saying is that since lust is an emotion, the sin depends on what you do with yet. What did Christ have to say about that

I seem to recall that He said in Mt 5:28 "But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart."

I don't think you can have it both ways.

 

Obviously my last post should have read "do with it", not "do with yet".

 

The phrase "without a cause" is not in the biblical manuscripts. Besides showing the silliness of KJV 'perfection', inserting the phrase would justify any and all anger, as there is always a cause for it, be it righteous, lame, ridiculous, or anything else.

 

Alcott, I did not claim that the KJV is perfect. I have never debated the validity or invalidity of any version of the Bible. If I had, I certainly wopuld not use demeaning terms as most of the non-KJV use. I prefer the KJV. For me it is the best version. You may of course read whatever you please. I will not condemn or otherwise criticize you for it. What you read and study is between you and God.

 

(Actually, RightFromWrong, that quote was from me.)

Please give me an example, hypothetical is OK, of an instance when God is, was, or will be wrong, unjust, unfair, and you would have a right to be angry at Him. To say that since God allows evil therefore God is evil is sooooooooooo not a Christian concept. Gen 18:25...Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right? Is it right or is it wrong for God to allow evil? If it is right then why are you mad at Him.

Job 2:9 Then said his wife unto him, Dost thou still retain thine integrity? curse God, and die.
Job 2:10 But he said unto her, Thou speakest as one of the foolish women speaketh. What? shall we receive good at the hand of God, and shall we not receive evil? In all this did not Job sin with his lips.

Job's wife was all for blaming it on God but, Job rebuked her.

Nothing wrong with that. A person should always be ready to learn from God. You're right about possibly never knowing why.

Think about that for a moment. Is it logical to say that you trust God but you also do not trust Him to have done the right thing (Isn't that why you are mad at Him?)?

I can't speak for others but I know from personal experience that being angry, even at the wrong person, is quite human and quite real but that doesn't make it OK. If God is wrong then you have every right to be angry at Him.

 

(Actually, RightFromWrong, that quote was from me.)

Please give me an example, hypothetical is OK, of an instance when God is, was, or will be wrong, unjust, unfair, and you would have a right to be angry at Him. To say that since God allows evil therefore God is evil is sooooooooooo not a Christian concept. Gen 18:25...Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right? Is it right or is it wrong for God to allow evil? If it is right then why are you mad at Him.

Job 2:9 Then said his wife unto him, Dost thou still retain thine integrity? curse God, and die.
Job 2:10 But he said unto her, Thou speakest as one of the foolish women speaketh. What? shall we receive good at the hand of God, and shall we not receive evil? In all this did not Job sin with his lips.

Job's wife was all for blaming it on God but, Job rebuked her.

Nothing wrong with that. A person should always be ready to learn from God. You're right about possibly never knowing why.

Think about that for a moment. Is it logical to say that you trust God but you also do not trust Him to have done the right thing (Isn't that why you are mad at Him?)?

I can't speak for others but I know from personal experience that being angry, even at the wrong person, is quite human and quite real but that doesn't make it OK. If God is wrong then you have every right to be angry at Him. </font>[/QUOTE]Your last sentence says, If God is wrong then you have every right to be angry at Him.

Do you really believe God is wrong in any thing He does, I dont think so, every thing God does has a purpose we may not understand why at this point and time and maybe were not meent to. having faith and trusting God is beliveing every thing He does even when our mind tells us not to.If God took my entire family from me today I would have to belive it was for the best, would I be happy with it no would I be angry with God no, after all He gave us His Son so that we could live with Him forever, Even when His Son asked if there was another way, God's will be done not ours.

 

I am a life long Southern Baptist. Does that help you understand anything? How judgemental of you.

Joseph Botwinick

 

1. That thread was closed while I was at work. Paul was not gay.

2. You took scripture out of context to justify your sin. I used scripture as well, and I notice you do not seem to want to deal with it. BTW, I did respond to your attempt at using scripture to justify sin. Go back and take a look.

3. You don't want to discuss it anymore because you are wrong and can't defend your position with scripture. As a matter of fact, as I have shown, scripture teaches the exact opposite of what you are saying here.

4. A majority does not mean it is Biblical. There is only one view that should concern you, and that is the view of the Word of God.

Joseph Botwinick