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Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by alexander284, Jun 6, 2020.

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    alexander284 Well-Known Member

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    Is it time for another update/revision of the New International Version (NIV)?

    And if another update/revision were to take place, what changes do you believe ought to be made?
     
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    Less than 10 years after the last update, I don’t think so.

    What exactly has changed in those years, language hasn’t changed (they were a bit ahead of the curve with the last update) and only minor adjustments to the Critical Greek text.

    Only really change I can think of might be the addition of a ‘Lost Lives Matter’ Study Bible.

    Rob
     
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    alexander284 Well-Known Member

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    Compared to the ESV, CSB, and NLT, it's been an eternity. ;)
     
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    I am sure every Bible version can use an improvement. Doesn't seem like it would cost to much compared to the huge sales profits they make. But do they have the motivation or any reason to make their Bible a better one? They should. But they won't.
     
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    How about when compared to Kjv and Nkjv?
     
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    basically, be better off just giving back to us the 1984 Nov!
     
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    What changes to the NIV ought to be made?

    1) It should translate the same word or phrase meaning consistently.
    2) It should minimize translating different source language words or phrases into the same English word or phrase.
    3) It should not alter the meaning of the text by deletion or addition or revision of word or phrase meaning.

    Specifics:
    1) Translate monogenes as unique or one of a kind, not one and only.
    2) Change "world" to "mankind" in John's writings.
    3) Change James 2:5 to read "...poor to the world, yet rich in faith...
    4) Change 2 Thessalonians 2:13 from "to be saved" to "for salvation."
    5) Change 1 Corinthians 2:14 from "...the things that come from the Spirit of God..." to "some of things of the Spirit of God."
     
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    Much better off just switching back to the 1984 niv!
     
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    Utter nonsense, the agenda driven mistranslations must be eliminated. The willy nilly translation methodology must be eliminated.
     
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    In this digital age many of the versions are choosing to tweak the version rather that do a full update. These are not a money making tactic because the updates occur automatically in most digital software systems.
    Nobody would rush out to purchase a new updated version with only a limited number of changes, particularly if the published published what those changes were.

    Rob
     
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    I'll rephrase the question: is it time to "tweak" the New International Version (NIV)?
     
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    Yes.
     
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    Keep tweaking until it is a highly accurate Version.
     
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    A few weeks ago I was listening to an archived interview of Douglas Moo from last year conducted by Darrell Bock as part of Dallas Theological Seminary's The Table podcast and Moo indicated the NIV is actually undergoing a revision right now.

    Below is the relevant portion of the transcript which was discussing the process of making revisions and updates:

    Darrell Bock
    And do those changes come out as revisions are made, or do they come out and were produced as each printing comes along?

    Douglas Moo
    No, only in a revision. So, again, we have a revision in 2011. We’ve accumulated hundreds of revisions since then as we’ve met every year since. And at some point, maybe in the mid-2020s, we will produce another revision which includes all of those.

    If interested the entire interview can be found here.
     
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    I like that, the HAV.
     
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    Agenda driven one was 2005/2011 Niv!
     
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    was already, 1984!
     
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    translations need to be grammar updated, but not what the Niv did!
     
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    They are all agenda driven, that is why Calvinists like the version.
     
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    Well, it is good, as is the Esv also!
     
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