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Is it Time for Female Pastors?

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by TCGreek, Aug 5, 2011.

  1. Crabtownboy

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    I guess Paul knew men. So, it may mean that a single woman may be a pastor. :laugh:
     
  2. matt wade

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    So....you only listen to liberal, apostate pastors and haven't heard any good messages.
     
  3. Crabtownboy

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    Thou knows not what thou speaks of! But thanks for the laugh. Laughter is good for the soul. Recently I heard a good sermon by a Baptist country preacher who would probably consider you liberal. Never try to limit God to your own understanding. Always be open to God regardless of whom He chooses to speak through. [Hmmm, maybe being open to God speaking through whom He chooses is too liberal for some here. I am not sure.]
     
  4. TCGreek

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    I think so too.
     
  5. annsni

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    Hey - God spoke through a donkey so....
     
  6. Jon-Marc

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    There will NEVER be a time for women pastors, although I don't think there is any problem with them teaching children and women. However, even then they cannot pastor. There is no good time to go against God's word that clearly says that women are NOT to pastor, and they are not to teach men.
     
  7. TheGriff

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    I say to the unmarried and the widows: it is good for them to remain as I am. (1 Cor. 7:9 HCSB)

    Since Paul was not the husband of one wife, then obviously he was not qualified to be a pastor.
     
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    I admit that I am a strange bird but I have no problem with a woman being the Women´s Pastor but the Word of God is crystal clear on the point of who is to lead the Church Family. And I have yet, at 66, to see a woman be the husband of one wife. Excuse my Texan but that ain´t neva´ gonna´ happen!
     
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    I Tim 3:2- "A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife..." NKJV

    As I understand, Paul was not a pastor (bishop).
     
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    Paul wasn't a Pastor

    Edit: Arbo beat me to it :thumbsup:
     
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    As well as a burning bush. As I said, never try to limit God to our own personal feelings. I was going to say theology but I believe many react to some issues with emotions.

    I have said many times during my life, "I will accept truth wherever I find it." ... be it a man, a woman, a burning bush, a talking donkey ... whatever.
     
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    The instructions in Timothy were local. There are other passages by Paul praising women leaders especially deacons.

    There was a particular problem Paul was addressing n both Corinthians and Timothy. It had to do with women leaders in cultic practices and invading the local church. Hence, woman NOT to cut hair,,as was done to the cultic women.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
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    From the OP article:

    [Associational Director of Missions Billy] Blakley said the association’s decision “has nothing to do with women in ministry.” He cited ministry roles of many women in the association, including teachers, music leaders and deacons.

    And check out recently reelected SBC President Bryant Wright's church: ladies teach men there! Johnson Ferry Baptist Church Marietta Ga.
     
  14. Amy.G

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    Paul uses Adam and Eve as examples of the the God given authority of men over women in the church. That is certainly not local.
     
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    Correct. His calling was an apostle.
     
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    A leader must be a servant, but a servant must not necessarily be a leader (since you are referring to Phoebe and the "deaconess" issue).

    She was a servant in the church, not a leader. Scripture never contradicts.
     
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    Jim,

    With all due respect, that argument has been thoroughly disproven. Much research went into that argument when it became a popular liberal argument for ignoring what Paul was writing in the Corinthian letters (as an example). What has been found is that Paul could not have been reacting to an alternative female power structure in the Pagan Temples of Corinth because no such practice or power ever existed. It was a complete fable projected onto Corinthain cultic practice; in reality, the Temples of Corinth were dominated by male priests as was proven by the discovery of a tablet with the names of the Temple leadership on it...no female names! Not even leading contemporary liberal scholars continue to hold to this argument.

    Besides, as has already been stated here, Paul grounds His reasoning not in Corinthian affairs, but on the order of creation. Man was created first, then woman. There is no way that is limited to only Corinthians!
     
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    grounded in pattern of biblical submission...
    man head of the Wife in household
    Christ head over the Church
    God the father head over Christ

    Subordination in roles/position, not in equality!
     
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    But Paul made it real clear in 1 Timothy 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
    13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.

    It seems since God formed Adam (man) first then Adam (man) is the head of the human race and is responsible for Spiritual leadership. Just because things in the world change the things of God never change. Since man was first formed then men are to teach and have authority over men in the church. Not my words but the Words of scripture as inspired by God the Holy Spirt. That settles it. A woman can be a great speaker when speaking to women or in an informal setting but God the Holy Spirit made it very clear in the matter of the church and Spiritual teaching the woman is not to teach nor have authority over a man. If you disagree with that then you don't believe the Holy Spirit (God).
     
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