Is Obama aMarxist?

Please show me where anyone has said "it is wrong to support the poor".

I will settle for just one citation.

 

When you vote against providing medical care or food for the needy you are saying it's wrong to support the poor.

 

I for one,......wait for it...... don't really care if he is a Marxist....or a communist, or a socialist, or a Maoist, or any other political persuation(sp?). All I know is, my hard earned money is being confiscated by the government to fund things that are against my beliefs. Not to mention that it is being confiscated under penalty of jail. Obama? Bush? Republican? Democrat?....All the same.

 

Not true. You are judging people's giving, like the Pharisees did.

 

I guess they are too busy buying carbon off sets and the latest hybrid car.

 

No one here is against medical care or food for the needy.

We are against a particular plan which is not simply medical care for the needy.

Did you know that HR3200 includes billions of dollars to build bicycle paths?

Wouldn't all that money be better spent providing medical care for the needy?

Why are you in favor of building bicycle paths for the rich instead of providing medical care for the needy?

Please justify this selfishness on your part, alatide.

 

I expect to see a re-emergence of the Politburo in DC. I think we have gone to the extremes here. There is corruption in the private sector where Pharmacy Companies have unjustly inflated their price lobbing Congress all the way. Insurance companies though regulated have also lobbied giving more leighway to what they are allowed to do such as not covering people properly who've paid properly. Using such terms as Pre-existing conditions (that may never have been previous diagnosed). Or (this treatment is too expensive so we won't cover it). Though their offices are behind marble columns. And not just these the entire medical system is a closed circut that feeds off each other increasing the prices until the average american can't afford healthcare. And yes its Victorian in application. But thats an extreme. So we've gone to the other exteme which is nothing short of socialism and communistic thinking which will quickly enslave us to the state. Instead of allowing for enriching our politicians corrupt business execs should be held accountable and serve real jail time in a real jail Like Rykers. If business managers were moral (and many of them are its just the many bad ones that cause problems) we wouldn't have such issues. If politicians were incorruptable we wouldn't have such issues.

 

Perhaps he's not really alatide! Who knows?

 

alatide

Can we all assume that you are totally obedient to the following instruction from Jesus Christ [through John the Baptist] or did that happen in one of your former lives?

Luke 3:11. He answereth and saith unto them, He that hath two coats, let him impart to him that hath none; and he that hath meat, let him do likewise.

 

Mitch, you throw the word "Marxist" around a lot. But be honest, and remember God knows if you are lying. Have you ever even read Das Kapital or the Manifesto of the Communist Party, two of Karl Marx's most famous treatises? I am not endorsing the values laid out in either, but it would seem that as much as you like to call people Marxists, that at least you would be intimately familiar with the writings of Marx & Engels.

I would also point out that communism is only one form of socialism. It's like the example, all wives are women, but not all women are wives.

 

No derail attempt at all Mitch. Just trying to level set if you actually understand your own OP question.

 

You are the one derailing your own thread with protestations and accusations. If you ask if Obama is a Marxist, we need to know your understanding of Marx's writings. Definitions do count for something.

 

My answer to the OP is "Does it matter?"

If we apply the Marxist label to Obama, the only people who will nod North & South will be those who already oppose his policies and initiatives. Those that support him will continue to marginalize the "right wing goons."

 

Can you give us the source of the OP?

 

Obama is the source of his being called a Socialist which some would call a mild form of Marxism. He admitted his socialist beliefs in a conversation with Joe the Plumber. He confesses in one of his books that he associated with Marxists while in college. He was mentored by a Marxist as a teenager. He sat under a Marxist "preacher?" for 20 years.

His policies since the inauguration indicate that he can rightly be called a Marxist. Some want to stick their head in the sand and deny that fact but his efforts to have the government take over the health care system is ample evidence.

His appointment of 35 + czars accountable only to him further indicate that he has the political mindset of a Marxist. His rabid advocacy of the slaughter of the unborn and his effort to ration health care to the elderly indicate that he has the moral mindset of a Marxist.