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Is Ron Paul actually a Baptist?

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  1. Salty

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    #1 Salty, Dec 7, 2007
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  2. Joseph M. Smith

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    Just about as Baptist as John McCain, it would seem.
     
    #2 Joseph M. Smith, Dec 7, 2007
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    :confused:
     
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  4. Salty

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    So what are your thoughts?
     
    #4 Salty, Dec 7, 2007
  5. Ivon Denosovich

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    Yes, I think he's a Baptist.
     
    #5 Ivon Denosovich, Dec 7, 2007
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    I would consider him a Baptist.

    I gather from your post though, you do not. Can you explain what you think.

    Jamie
     
    #6 JamieinNH, Dec 7, 2007
  7. Salty

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    A person becomes a Baptist by joining a Baptist church. Ron Paul, attends a Baptist church, but has never joined the church. Therefore, he is not a Baptist.

    Salty
     
    #7 Salty, Dec 7, 2007
  8. JamieinNH

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    I guess that is where we differ.

    I believe that to be a Baptist you have to have the belief that you need to be baptized publicly by full immersion. Also, the person needs to have the beliefs of the Baptist denomination, then that would make one a Baptist in my opinion.

    In my opinion, being a member of a church or not doesn't or isn't what makes one Baptist.

    Don't get me wrong, I am a member of my church, because I want to fellowship and make this church strong, but having said that, I think sometimes, there is too much emphasis put on being a "member" of a church vers being a good Christian.

    Jamie
     
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  9. Salty

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    First, there is no such thing as a "Baptist denomination".
    Second, Baptists believe in church membership, therefore if you beleive in Baptist beliefs, then you WILL unite in membership with a local Baptist church.
    Third, Often Baptist churches DO NOT put enought (proper) emphasis on church membership

    Salty
     
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  10. 2 Timothy2:1-4

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    He is about as much Baptist as he is Republican. Neither of both.
     
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  11. Salty

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    Who, Ron Paul or JamieNH?
     
    #11 Salty, Dec 8, 2007
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    Or as conservative as you are.
     
    #12 saturneptune, Dec 8, 2007
  13. JamieinNH

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    I think he was talking about Ron Paul.

    Jamie
     
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    I can understand your logic, but I still don't agree that you MUST join a church to be a Baptist. Yes, as a baptist, you should want to join a church and become a member, but it's not required BEFORE you are considered a Baptist. This is of course, my opinion. We all have differ opinion about things, and with this, we will have to agree to disagree.

    I will have to do some research, but as a start, Who was the first Baptist? When did it all start? (where it was called Baptist) Anyone know of any good Baptist history sites?

    Jamie
     
    #14 JamieinNH, Dec 8, 2007
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    Deleted post.. nothing worth posting.... Change of mind.

    Jamie
     
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    John the Baptist:laugh:

    Actually, some Landmarkers actually believe that:
    http://www.gotquestions.org/landmarkism-Baptist-bride.html


    But back to my orginial question: If a person calls himself a Christian, does that make him a Christian - NO!!! he must take action to become one ie become born again. Many non-christians can act like a good Christian (in fact some actually behave more like Christians then "true Christians":tear:
    A person may have Baptistic beliefs, but he is not a Baptist, until he joins a Baptist church.

    Salty

    ps, I like your ideal about the history of Baptists
     
    #16 Salty, Dec 8, 2007
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    You have such a narrow definition of who should be a Republican that if you had your way the Republican Party wouldn't have enough members to elect someone to be dog catcher much less president.
     
    #17 KenH, Dec 8, 2007
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    HUH?
    WHAT?
    SAY AGAIN?
    I guess that means Jesus wasn't one either,and as well JOHN "THE BAPTIST"?
    Hummmmm you think that it might be enough to be a christian?
    After seeing and attending many Baptist Churches"I am one " I guess since I am a member of one,I don't really see what difference it makes.
    Does he trust in the finished work of Jesus's blood on the cross?
    Does he beleive in the virgin birth? That he rose again on the third day?That he is returning to take his bride the church to live with him forever in Heaven?




    The POTUS says he is a christian,do you think that he is?
     
    #18 betterthanideserve, Dec 8, 2007
  19. Salty

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    Enough to be a Christian? Thats all it takes to get to Heaven (in fact I am so closed minded that I believe all Baptist will not make it to Heaven.)

    Why be a Baptist - Because I believe what Baptists (in general) believe and I take a stand on what I believe is important. Some may think being immersed is not important - thats fine, but it will not keep you out of Heaven, but I think it is important for someone to be immersed - because the Bible teaches it!

    Is the POTUS a Christian - Yes I believe he is.
    Now if we can just dunk him:laugh: :thumbs:

    Salty

    I always tell folks "I will not proselyte your church members until everyone on Earth is saved!:jesus:
     
    #19 Salty, Dec 8, 2007
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    As the Ethiopian eunuch might say, "What doth hinder Ron Paul to be baptized?"
     
    #20 Jerome, Dec 8, 2007
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