Is salvation a means or an end?

I may be wrong Luke, and I am SURE you WILL correct me, but I sense hints of it often, and I am confident that you have said something to the effect somewhere, I am just not skilled enough with technology skills to locate things.

Sometimes I wonder, if you are not simply just a very bright young man enjoying yanking some chains as an intellectual exercise.

 

How do we know He didn't/hasn't? We humans like to pretend we are the end all be all of God's creative inclinations but the scripture teaches just the opposite.

Actually, I believe sin existed before mankind. Was it not the sin of pride that caused Lucifer to be cast from heaven? If the angels were capable of sin, then sin existed. Their definition of sin is the same as ours: disobedience to God. I believe that for reasons of His own, that He hasn't made clear to mankind, God allowed man (whom He made in His own image) to be tempted toward sin. He didn't create sin, but He allowed it.

 

Because, "GOD IS LOVE" and it is His sovereign right to do so. And He CHOSE to be consistent with HIS own nature.

 

He did will what? Sin? Willing it and allowing it are closer to the right idea than creating it. I reject the notion that God created sin. (this is another one of those things I don't believe has been made clear to man)

WAIT????? You didn't just call me a Calvinist did you????? Cause the only thing I hate worse than being called Arminian is Calvinst! :laugh:

 

Well, I am going to "Choose" to have a Merry Christmas. I hope everyone else here will either do the same or be predestinated to do so.

God Bless Us Everyone.

 

Because he was made sin for us.