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Is the NIV 2011 STILL A "Calvinist Bible"?

Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by DaChaser1, Feb 25, 2012.

  1. DaChaser1

    DaChaser1 New Member

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    As read couple of reviews on the 1984 that claimed their main dispute was that it read as a "cal" bible?
     
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    Rippon Well-Known Member
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    You ask way too many questions,it's unhealthy.
     
  3. Friend of God

    Friend of God Active Member
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    I would agree with you about the NIV being a "Calvinistic" Bible. For example look at Psalm 51:5.

    The NIV reads "Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me" Calvinism teaches that we are all born in sin.

    The NASB and the ESV both read "Behold I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me." This could mean that David was born into a sinful world, or that the sinfulness belonged to the mother.

    At least it's a point to ponder in the OP's argument.
     
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    Jerome Well-Known Member
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    The idea for the NIV originated in the Christian Reformed Church, then the National Association of Evangelicals got involved.



    However, a recent report of the Wisconsin Synod Lutherans praised the following change from the NIV84 to this New NIV:

    http://www.wels.net/sites/wels/files/BORAM2011_supplemental_translationevaluationcommittee.pdf
     
  5. preachinjesus

    preachinjesus Well-Known Member
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    Beat me in the head with a brick if I have to keep reading these inane questions...
     
  6. Van

    Van Well-Known Member
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    The addition of the little word “all” is significant, since it clarifies Paul’s intended meaning: God has declared all guilty sinners not guilty by his gracious, saving work in Christ Jesus.

    I sure do not read it that way. The "all" that is added is not in the Greek, so it should be italicized so that it is clearly a translator additon to the text.

    I read it that everyone, all mankind, has sinned and come short of the glory of God, but through deliverance in Christ Jesus, are justified freely. Thus only those delivered are justified, not all guilty sinners.
     
  7. Amy.G

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    Ok. Ask and you shall receive.
    Sorry. Couldn't find a brick.



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    But what does it matter if you are born sinful if God is taking you unwillingly to heaven anyway?

    John
     
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    It's funny to me how the Bible says that God's Word never changes....

    But man keeps changing it every couple of years and make a lot of money doing it.

    John
     
  10. DiamondLady

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    For the love of all that is holy...get a GRIP!!! What in the world does it matter. It's a Bible! An NIV Bible to boot, on it's 9000th change!

    All in life does not revolve around the Cal/Arm debate. Get over it and quit asking these idiotic and inane questions.
     
  11. preachinjesus

    preachinjesus Well-Known Member
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    Ah...well...yes, that might do...oh here's one...

    :BangHead::BangHead::BangHead:
     
  12. TC

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    And here is another. :tonofbricks:
     
  13. Earth Wind and Fire

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    Yea....who told you that? Your just full of one liners aren't you.
     
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