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Islam trying to be the worlds pariah

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by BobRyan, Jul 7, 2005.

  1. Joseph_Botwinick

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    I was wondering if you caught what your own source said about these Muslim Extremist terrorists. HMMMMMMMMMMMMM?

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    I caught it and went ahead and posted it. He's just trying to be politically correct so he won't be called a bigot. No one can speak the truth anymore without having the B word attached to them. Look at the thread on Winston Churchill - someone called him a bigot.

    Interesting article from CNS News

    Of course, this article is speaking about Britain's lax immigration policies, but the USA's are no better, in reality. In fact, our own State Department brings Muslims in from Somalia and other places which breed terrorism and dump them in small communities in Maine, for instance. Maybe these are "peaceful" Muslims, though. Except after they are here for a little while, pretty soon they want a big mosque and pretty soon they get an imam who preaches hate against America and Jews. And pretty soon, another madrassa springs up so the Muslim kids can go to their own "school" where they can learn how to do the big jihad properly against the Big Satan and Little Satan.

    And then pretty soon enough of them are in a town where they can have a political voice and demand calls to prayer five times a day, like they did in that town in Michigan.

    It's all nuts.
     
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    Oh, and Joseph, has any leading Muslim cleric in the world ever issued a fatwa against Osama bin Laden?
     
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    So, are you saying he wasn't being honest? If not, why should we believe anything he says? Also, how do you know that he is just being PC? Did he tell you that? Where was that written in the article? It is interesting how far you will go to attach only the worst possible picture to all Muslims no matter what the facts show.

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    I could be wrong, but I don't think that moderate Muslims issue Fatwas as that is the stuff of extremist terrorists. I do know that there are terrorists who have issued fatwas against Irshad Manji. I wonder why? Why do you think they would do that?

    I also know that there are many Muslims in Iraq who are fighting and dying for freedom against the terrorists who have infiltrated their country.

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    This just in moderate Klan leader denounces violence,claims Klan doctrine misunderstood.Just wants peace.All the violent acts of the past were carried out by extremist,that were not following true clan doctrine.For the sake of peace and true clan doctrine we will let god sort this all out,one color at a time.I didn't post this to offend any one,some thing to think about.
     
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    RTG,

    That was a very stupid post considering much of the Klan claims Christianity as its religion of Choice and uses the Bible to justify much of their extremism. Those were not crescent moons they used to burn in people's yards, in case you missed it.

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    Oh, I thought it was a great post, RTG. [​IMG]

    If someone is a member of the KKK, is that person a terrorist? Or a potential terrorist?
     
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    What if someone is in a Nazi group, are they a terrorist? Or a potential terrorist?
     
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    Victor Mordecai is an author and lecturer. He traces the history of Islam from an Israeli point of view.

    Islam mourns the time when their empire was the greatest. No, I would not want them to return to that. The Arab League is already twice as large as the USA.

    You mention abortion, slavery and racial prejudice; Islam still has these things. You say that Christianity justified those things but you cannot find in The Holy Bible any justification for mistreating people. However, you can find in the Koran, which won't flush down my toilet because my toilet isn't as good as those at Newsweek Headquarters, verses for mistreatment of women, homosexuals, Jews, Christians, and all other infidels.

    Of course, men are totally depraved. However, the Koran is also totally depraved. It is a sick book.

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    Great post, cmg. [​IMG]
     
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    The KKK was a terrorist organization, so yes. They are terrorists. Of course, the Klan based much of their hatred on the twisted perversions of the Bible. Does that mean that all Christians are terrorists, or potential terrorists?
     
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    So you are saying that The Holy Bible is twisted just like the Koran, Joseph?

    Thanks, LE!
     
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    1. Actually, I believe abortion is considered illegal under Islamic law. I could be wrong, though. I will have to check into that.

    2. Racial Prejudice....yep we still have this among many who claim Christianity today. But, of course, this is not all Christians just as it is not all Muslims.

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    You don't have to go very far to find that happening, CMG. Just go to the Other Religions forum sometime. Or, turn on TBN (The Blasphemy Network). That isn't a Koran being used by Benny Hinn and Ken and Gloria Copeland. Yes, of course evil men pervert and twist scripture all the time to fit their agenda just as they do in Islam.

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    What if the KKK member never burned a cross on a yard? Is he a potential terrorist?

    Of course, maybe he is a "moderate" terrorist.
     
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    The Bible says thou shalt not kill.

    The Quran says to kill the infidel.

    People who believe the Bible will not murder.

    People who believe the Quran will kill.
     
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    This is apples and oranges since the Klan has as its very foundation, hatred and racism. They perverted the Holy Bible and its message to get this hate. That does not mean that the Bible teaches that anymore than the Koran does. Are all Christians racists? This argument goes both ways because it is stupid, silly and meaningless.

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    The Bible says do not kill unless God tells you to:
    Deuteronomy 20:13

    What, you say? We should interpret scripture in light of other passages if we are to be fair? Well then, perhaps we could offer the same benefit of the doubts to the Muslims as well for fairness sake:

    http://www.muslim-refusenik.com/letters.html

    http://www.muslim-refusenik.com/aboutirshad.html

    BTW, don't you like this kind of message? Wouldn't you like to hear more Muslims clinging to this interpretation of the Koran than the one you seem to want to shove down their throats in judgement?

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