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Discussion in 'Baptist History' started by Jeff Weaver, Jan 1, 2003.

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  1. Jeff Weaver

    Jeff Weaver New Member

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    Since Bro. Robert brought up Martinism earlier today on another thread in this forum, it got me to thinking about the various -isms that have spread through out the various Baptist ranks. Some that have disturbed the ranks of Primitive Baptists have included:

    Two-Seed-in-the-Spiritism (Parkerism)
    Progressiveism
    Universalism
    The Hollow Log Doctrine
    The Whole Man Doctrine.

    Other isms are no-doubt all over the place. Anyone care to educate us about some of them of which you may have some knowledge. Curious minds want to know.

    Of course various "odd and curious" ideas aren't all ways called -isms, but you get the idea. (I hope)

    I am not seeking to start arguments on the merits of the various -isms, just curious about what they might be.
     
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    Bro. Jeff, I'm trying to think of "isms" and divisions, Here's a few:

    Non-resurrectionism - crops up from time to time in Baptist history.

    Gospel missionism - not considered a heresy, but was a source of division in the SBC around 1890. This held that only churches, not conventions, associations and/or boards, had the authority in "mission work."

    Haydenism - division in Texas in the BGCT around 1900. Was called Haydenism by some, after leader Samuel Hayden who was fighting many board and convention policies.

    Whitsittism - many in late 1800/early 1900 referred to the idea that immersion was restored by Baptists around 1640 as Whitsittism, after professor William H. Whitsitt, President of Southern Seminary in Louisville, KY.
     
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  3. Jeff Weaver

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    Robert

    Muchos Gracias.

    I had forgotten about non-resurectionism. That is a big one.

    Anyone else got more of these -isms.?

    Jeff
     
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  4. Jim1999

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    I can only recall the two ism's in Canadian Baptist churches........modern ism and dispensational ism. Dispensationalism was considered a cult by many Regular Baptists.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
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  5. Jeff Weaver

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    Jim 1999 noted:

    I don;t hold to the dispensationalist's point of view (amillenial myself), but can you enlighten me on why it was/is considered a cult. Just curious.

    Thanks.
    Jeff.
     
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  6. Jim1999

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    Dispensationalism was considered a cult because of the seven divisions of the Bible. Time periods demanding that God deal in different ways with humankind in the provision of redemption. It did not conform to theology and often they set themselves apart from other believers of different persuasions.

    Regular Baptists were mostly amil and tulip Calvinists (not to be confused with the USA Regular Baptists). When the FEBC was formed in 1953, there were many dispensationalist among the churches and we enjoyed good fellowship so far as mutual efforts were concerned, but there was also a lot of dissension over eschatology.

    This is the sense in which it was deemed cultist, and not that they denied the deity of Christ.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
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    I read through the TT Martin book to-day and I couldn't detect any of the father's controversial views. This is not to say he didn't believe as his father though.

    He did make some odd remarks, at least to my mind: Speaking on Nahum 2: 3,4 "The chariots shall be with flaming torches, in the day of His preparation..The chariots shall rage in the streets........" He goes on to say, The man who cannot see that that is a prophecy of the automobile has a free pass to Heaven........too light above the ears to be responsible before God.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
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  8. Mrs KJV

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    Here are a few ism's.

    Briderism
    Landmarkism
    Calvinism :D
     
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    #9 rlvaughn, Jan 6, 2003
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    I know Landmark and Calvin... but what is Briderism?... Brother Glen :confused:
     
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  11. rsr

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    I would like to add the Stoneites and Campbellites to the list; while they strictly were not Baptists (or for at least very long), their influence for a time was strong in some associations, even leading to associations disbanding.

    In connection with that I would like to add Rigdonism. The Rev. Sidney Rigdon was originally a Baptist, then a Cambpbellite, then a Mormon (and is still considered by some of the "Old Mormons" as the church's first theologian.) He was excommunicated by the Brighamites, and some of his former followers were involved in the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (now the Community of Christ.)

    His early career showed the constant contentions of Baptists, primarily in Pennsylvania and Ohio.

    http://www.sidneyrigdon.com/Rigdchrn.htm#chron

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  12. rsr

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    Briders were (are?) a form of hyper-Landmarkers who hold not only to strict successionism but a belief that those of the true Baptist Church will be the "bride of Christ," although others will be saved as well.

    --M.M. Hall

    http://www.baptistpillar.com/bd0341.htm

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