1. Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to all the features that our community has to offer.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Israel Will Be Destroyed

Discussion in '2005 Archive' started by Enoch, Oct 27, 2005.

  1. Enoch

    Enoch New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2004
    Messages:
    1,267
    Likes Received:
    0
    Why?

    Where did you come to the conclusion that pre-trib and pre-mill people believe no harm will ever come to Jewish people or Israel? Since I am both and do not interpret scripture that way I am curious. Are you familiar with Jacob’s Trouble? And what about the Holocaust and continual terrorist attacks in Israel.

    Of course it is. [​IMG]

    My faith will not waver regardless of what I see happen in this world.
     
  2. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2002
    Messages:
    42,005
    Likes Received:
    1,492
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Of course it isn't. But there have been more than enough threads on that merry-go-round on this board. No point in having another one. [​IMG]
     
  3. billwald

    billwald New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2000
    Messages:
    11,414
    Likes Received:
    2
    If Israel was destroyed think of all the dispensational back peddling. It wouldn't have any effect on reformed/covenant theology.
     
  4. LadyEagle

    LadyEagle <b>Moderator</b> <img src =/israel.gif>

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2002
    Messages:
    22,028
    Likes Received:
    1
    You got that right, hillclimber! [​IMG]
     
  5. Squire Robertsson

    Squire Robertsson Administrator
    Administrator

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2000
    Messages:
    15,371
    Likes Received:
    2,405
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Not really, no more than World War 1 and its aftermath and the failure of Prohibition caused post mill thinking to back pedal.
     
  6. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2002
    Messages:
    42,005
    Likes Received:
    1,492
    Faith:
    Baptist
    It is my understanding that World War I caused a huge shrinkage in affiliation with postmillennialism.
     
  7. NaasPreacher (C4K)

    NaasPreacher (C4K) Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2003
    Messages:
    26,806
    Likes Received:
    80
    I am somewhat dispensational - the destruction of the State of Israel would not cause me any back peddling or changing.
     
  8. freedom's cause

    freedom's cause New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2005
    Messages:
    478
    Likes Received:
    0
    all this reminds me of the scriptures indicating
    blood flowing up to the horses bridle think of all the human suffering satan has caused on our planet the muslims worshiping satan with their blood and the blood of the innocents they have murdered cain and able multiplied a million fold
    satan using the mask of allah or alilah the moon god of pre-islamic times who is really one in the same satan doesn't care who he uses to do his bidding and there are more than enough to go around yet he is being used by the true God to his ultimate destruction Praise God forevermore for His wisdom, plan,and total victory amen
     
  9. freedom's cause

    freedom's cause New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2005
    Messages:
    478
    Likes Received:
    0
    unfortunately at this point if the president of Iran's words are factual the time has come for Israel to send the bomb in order to survive they
    must act pre-emptively of course we all know that God will ultimately protect and defend her
    she doesn't really need the weapon she possesses
    but the God who loves her as His wife and the apple of His eye in the end Israel may be the only one left on this planet without God's help the true and living God all is lost including our souls
     
  10. freedom's cause

    freedom's cause New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2005
    Messages:
    478
    Likes Received:
    0
    evidence against the destruction of Israel in the natural sense although this is old data it
    is interesting Israel will survive God has the final say

    http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/cpc-pubs/farr.htm


    please take time to write your local politicians about Jonathon Pollard and ask them to release him from prison write to the President and ask that he be pardoned and released immediately
     
  11. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2002
    Messages:
    42,005
    Likes Received:
    1,492
    Faith:
    Baptist
    I urge everyone to not do as freedom's cause suggest. Anyone who spies against the United States should be kept in prison.

    "After years of denials, Israel finally admitted Pollard, a U.S. Navy civilian analyst, was not a "rogue agent," as it originally claimed, but a spy for Israeli intelligence.

    Pollard caused enormous damage to U.S. national security. He gave Israel top-secret U.S. military intelligence and diplomatic codes; names of nearly 100 U.S. agents in the Mideast, who were then "turned" by Israel; NSA code-breaking techniques and targets; intercepts of foreign communications; and U.S. war-fighting plans for the Mideast.

    According to CIA sources, Pollard provided Israeli intelligence with names of important American agents inside the former

    Soviet Union and Russia who had supplied information on East Bloc weapons and war plans. How the agents' names were linked to the secrets they supplied - a major breach of basic intelligence security - remains a mystery.

    Some of the enormously sensitive secrets stolen by Pollard may have been either sold, or bartered, by Israel to the Soviet Union.

    A number of key CIA agents in the East Bloc were allegedly executed as a result of Pollard's spying. The KGB likely gained access to top-secret U.S. codes - either directly from Israel, or through spies in Israel's government. In short, Pollard's treachery caused one of the worst security disasters in modern U.S. history...

    Pollard is no Jewish patriot. He is a traitor who sold out his country, and fellow intelligence officers, for money, then claimed he was being persecuted by anti-Semites.

    Victim he is not. To the contrary, Pollard is a poster boy for anti-Semitism. His treason unfairly exposes all American Jews to hate, and accusations of doubtful loyalty..."

    - LINK
     
  12. freedom's cause

    freedom's cause New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2005
    Messages:
    478
    Likes Received:
    0
  13. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2002
    Messages:
    42,005
    Likes Received:
    1,492
    Faith:
    Baptist
    I am glad to see that this scumbag, Jonathan Pollard, admits that he spied. He is in prison and he should rot there.
     
  14. freedom's cause

    freedom's cause New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2005
    Messages:
    478
    Likes Received:
    0
  15. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2002
    Messages:
    42,005
    Likes Received:
    1,492
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Okay. I am not aware of Mr. Margolis other than that one column.

    So here's this fact:

    "Israel has officially acknowledged for the first time that an American Jew, Jonathan Pollard, who was arrested in the United States 13 years ago, was one of its spies."

    - LINK

    Pollard was spy. He is in prison and should rot in prison for spying on our country.
     
  16. freedom's cause

    freedom's cause New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2005
    Messages:
    478
    Likes Received:
    0
    Free jonathon Pollard America will be blessed
    Israel should know everything we ard doing now
    and in the future
     
  17. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2002
    Messages:
    42,005
    Likes Received:
    1,492
    Faith:
    Baptist
    If you really believe that then, frankly, I don't understand why you don't move to Israel if you value the current political State of Israel over the United States.

    Fortunately, most Americans have better sense than you have and think that those who harm the United States should be punished.
     
  18. Squire Robertsson

    Squire Robertsson Administrator
    Administrator

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2000
    Messages:
    15,371
    Likes Received:
    2,405
    Faith:
    Baptist
    As for Mr. Pollard, first can it be posited that Israel can be considered a friendly country on par with Great Britain? If so, would this discussion be as heated if Mr. Pollard had been shown to be a British agent?
     
  19. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2002
    Messages:
    42,005
    Likes Received:
    1,492
    Faith:
    Baptist
    I think it would be. No country, friend or foe, should expect that one of its spies, when caught, should get away with it.
     
  20. freedom's cause

    freedom's cause New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2005
    Messages:
    478
    Likes Received:
    0
    I hope you don't take citizenship above faith
    this is not our home it is only a land we are
    presently occupying passing thru if you will
    on the other hand Israel has been chosen by God
    not America God has only presently blessed us all
    to have lived here temporarily it is eternity that we should be focused on as concerning our home
     
Loading...