Israeli attack on U.S.S. Liberty

James Bamford's book, Body of Secrets, goes into some detail regarding the Liberty incident and theorizes why Israel may have attacked. It also has some surprising analysis of the Six Day War and the reasons why Israel was so successful.

 

Very interesting, but I suppose we had to take Israels word. To do otherwise would serve only ill for us and Israel. Wonder if the whole truth will ever be known.

 

Please explain.

Thank you.

 

no, your welcome

 

Personally, I have no problem take Israel at their word.

 

Bah... Israel should be nuked off the map, just like the rest of them countries in that region.

 

Why, Ex-Fundy?

 

Well, for starters, The current nation of Israel is not the same nation of Israel of Bible times. Any and all references to Israel in the N.T is referring to Spiritual Israel, and not the secular Israel of today, who has forgotten Jesus and God and embraced many false religions. Because of the atrocities carried out by that Nation to the Arab nations, that have never been reported, because our Corporate media doesn't allow it to be shown.

and you know something? it was... and rightfully so... World War 2 took care of that.

I've even heard Baptist ministers say all Jews are going to heaven, because of their relation to the nation of Israel. Which is of course, nonsense...

And, Yes, this includes the Jews, who are still trusting in the O.T. Law and reject Christ daily.

 

"And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed."

"To your descendants I give this land, from the river of Egypt to the great river, the Euphrates the land of the Kenites, Kenizzites, Kadmonites, Hittites, Perizzites, Rephaites, Amorites, Canaanites, Girgashites and Jebusites".

 

The Most misused Scripture in Christianity.

That's referring to two things. One Israel of biblical times, and Spiritual Israel. and NOT the secular Israel of today.

Two different countries.

 

Ex-Fundy when you suggest nuking them are you serious? I don't want to misinterpret you.

 

Well, Israel was made up of the decendants of Abraham and those who had been grafted on. There's no spiritualization involved. And the regathering of the descendants of Abraham to the same land that they occupied 1900 years ago is miraculous.

"For thus saith the Lord of hosts; After the glory hath he sent me unto the nations which spoiled you: for he that toucheth you toucheth the apple of his eye."

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I won't try to justify their attack on the USS Liberty, and they should make amends for that. But I think you are on very shaky ground in advocating nuking Israel.

 

I would be interested to see your scriptual support for this ideology.

 

I would be interested in seeing anything from Ex-Fundy that resembled responses beyond public advocacy for global annihilation or genocide run amok without so much as an attempt at justification for either. But then again, if we were all coherent how boring would that be?

 

Why? You really want to debate him about whether Israel should be nuked?

 

There could be no scripture to support the destruction of Israel. Such a stance does not come from above. We are commanded to pray for Israel, and I believe verses in Daniel & Ezekiel tell us to protect her.

I would like to see some scripture to back up what I believe to be the blasphemous teaching that the Israel of today isn't the Israel of the O/T. I've heard some catholics that tell me God gave his blessing to the Roman church, 'cuz of the poor stewardship of the Jews, but they can't back it up with the bible.

 

This subject has been debated over and over and over and over on this board and throughout Christendom.

The bottom line is whether an individual has come to Jesus in faith and repentance - not what he thinks about some other person's or group's relationship to God.

 

Nothing wrong with fighting false doctrine.





I'd still like someone to at least try and support that today's Jews ain't God's chosen people, or that Israel ain't God's nation.