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It is as it was....or was it?

Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by Spirit and Truth, Mar 10, 2004.

  1. sparkle

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    GB, I haven't seen the movie you're referring to, but I understand that it has Jesus succumbing to sexual temptation, something we know without a doubt never happened. How can you seriously compare the dramatic license in "The Passion" with that used in the earlier movie? For instance, I think that the uproar over showing Satan in several scenes is a little much. I don't think it's a stretch to think that Satan was around enjoying every minute of Jesus' anguish and suffering.
     
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    Wonder why Muslim censors passed this film without any 'cuts'?

    I'm not really wondering, just want you guys to think about it for a minute, or however long you wish.

    Regardless of what is said by a 'muslim' they believe anyone receiving Christ as the Son of God is an infadel, there is only one God. You, and myself as Christians are committing blasphemy against God and engaging in idol worship to think or believe there is a Trinity but one God.

    So, just wanted to try to get the focus of cutting each other's throats and get us to wondering what a muslim whose very act of speaking Allah allies him with the Muslim faith, which btw is not by any means non-militant toward unbelievers (in Islam) alone.

    Just think about it, what reason would these cleric leaders have in providing the movie uncut to their populace?

    If you think this movie will convert any of them, then you had better rethink your theology and enter covenant with the Primitive Baptist Brethren, because there is not enough of the gospel message found in this movie to be able to carry the enabling of the Spirit.

    While your thoughts are turned in this way, ask yourselves what the gospel message includes. What is the gospel? And to say good news is not enough, imho. There is good news in the stock market, there is good news in a good health report, there are a multitude of things we get good news in, but what is the gospel?

    What makes it good news? That is different than the 'good news' of Islam?

    Just think [​IMG]

    Thanks for the link S&T.

    Bro. Dallas
     
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    No, he didn't actually succumb. In fact, he was ridiculed because he didn't. He was crucified a virgin. Now there was a portion of the movie at the end, where it appeared that an angel convinced him that his suffering was over, and afterwards it showed him living to be an old man... but all of that was either a dream or reversed and the he died on the cross. Dramatic license, especially since the end result was scriptural.

    Perhaps that is due to similar teachings like this one that has lead you to believe that Satan is everywhere. Isn't is ironic that scripture states an ANGEL ministers to Jesus, while this movie shows SATAN?

    Is it "a little much" to take offense at a film showing Jesus dangling off a bridge like a puppet?

    I wouldn't be so aggravated by the whole deal if it wasn't for the endorsements by the famous church leaders, and even the glowing endorsements of accuracy by some members of this board. Either these folks lied or else they have no true understanding of the scriptural account of the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. For the so-called church leaders, either is unacceptable. I can excuse board members who may lack understanding.

    Just be honest - the Passion movie is a interpretation of the death of Jesus Christ that draws a lot of it's content from extra-biblical sources.


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    Anyone notice in the movie when the Pharisees were listing their charges against Jesus, that one stood up and said that Jesus had indicated that He was Elijah, and "we all know Elijah went up to heaven in a chariot!"? According to my Bible, Elijah went up in a whirlwind... silly Pharisee! [​IMG]
     
  6. Spirit and Truth

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    Hey GB:

    Grab yourself a cup ot the Island speciality, Reality coffee....fresh brewed.....

    [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    Vaspers, keep your personal attacks to youself. They do no good and uplift no one. I'm growing tired of seeing you air all the dirty laundry from your former church. Enough already - let it go.
     
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    Maybe he dosn't mean it as personal attacks. Maybe by 'talking' about it he is letting it go.

    Maybe :(
    :D
    Bro. Dallas
     
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    I've got a big question concerning the future! Here it is:

    It has suddenly "dawned" upon me that lots of folks are being moved by the motives of the movie---am I right or wrong??(catch 22 question)

    But in the years to come---because so many miracles seem to be transpiring in the wake of the movie---that the RCC will not be able to refuse "Saint-hood" to the movie----Am I gonna be a true prophet!! Or not??
     
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    you mean the actual 'movie' or those working to produce the images, or would it make any difference which of either?

    Bro. Dallas
     
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    Brother Dallas!!!! Brother Dallas! Brother Dallas!! I told you it was gonna be a "Catch 22" question, didn't I????!!!!!

    Somebody needs to do a search engine on movies that the RCC has promoted to Sainthood!!
     
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    Yes and the wheel goes round and round and round...oh the vicious circle. All that has been accomplished by this artistic, dramatic, hollywood can rewrite anything is the division of the people of God.

    I maintain that whatsoever mixes truth with error has no intent of delivering souls but deceit. (Prov. 14.25)

    I am off to see the wizard the wonderful wizard of oz, I'm going to get a heart, to put inside this old tin man, and courage to strengthen the cowardly lion and a brain for this ol' straw man, oh, but I do need to know which way is Kansas, there ain't no yellow brick road here in ol' kentuck, only asphalt (haha, you thought I was going to say all dirt roads didnya??).

    :rolleyes:
     
  13. Spirit and Truth

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    DUELLING MYSTICS

    Let's examine two of the "duelling mystics" that Mel sourced for the movie to "fill in" the blanks:

    MARY OF AGREDA

    "The most holy Mary, with saint John and the women who followed Her, was present at this interview; for the holy angels made room for them where they could hear and see all that was passing. Shielded by her mantle ***She wept tears of blood,** pressed forth by the sorrow which pierced her virginal heart. In her interior acts of virtue She faithfully reproduced those practiced by her most holy Son, while in her pains and endurance She copied those of his body. She asked the eternal Father to grant Her the favor of not losing sight of her divine Son, as far as was naturally possible, until his Death; and this was conceded to Her, excepting during the time in which He was in prison."

    The exact number of blows dealt out to the Savior from head to foot was ***5,115***. The great Lord and Author of all creation who, by his divine nature was incapable of suffering, was, in his human flesh and for our sake, reduced to a man of sorrows as prophesied, and was made to experience our infirmities, becoming the last of men (Is. 53, 3), a man of sorrows and the outcast of the people.

    http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Ithaca/7194/book6c6.html

    http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Ithaca/7194/ The complete writings


    From the vision of Saint Bridgit:

    "I received ***5480*** blows on My Body. If you wish to honor them in some way, say 15 Our Fathers and 15 Hail Marys with the following Prayers (which He taught her) for a whole year. When the year is up, you will have honored each one of My Wounds." Our Lord made the following promises to anyone who recited the 15 St. Bridget Prayers every day for a whole year:


    Read the rest here:

    http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Marble/8229/english.htm


    S&T:

    What we have is a differential of 365 blows between the two mystics sourced for the movie. Did Jesus mis-speak when He revealed these "details" to these mystics by direct revelation according to their statements? To endorse this movie, is to be in agreement with divination. There is no way around it.

    But what does the Catholic church say:


    Amongst these, the Revelations of St. Bridget of Sweden, of Maria Agreda, of Marina de Escobar and, in comparatively recent times, of Anne Catherine Emmerich are the most famous. Within the last fifty years, however, there has been a reaction against this procedure, a reaction due probably to the fact that so many of these revelations plainly contradict each other, for example on the question whether the right or left shoulder of Our Lord was wounded by the weight of the cross, or whether Our Saviour was nailed to the cross standing or lying. In the best modern lives of Our Saviour, such as those of Didon, Fouard, and Le Camus, every use is made of subsidiary sources of information, not neglecting even the Talmud. The work of Pre Ollivier, "The Passion" (tr., 1905), follows the same course, but in many widely-read devotional works upon this subject, for example: Faber, "The Foot of the Cross"; Gallwey, "The Watches of the Passion"; Coleridge, "Passiontide" etc.; Groenings, "Hist. of the Passion" (Eng. tr); Belser, D'Gesch. d. Leidens d. Hernn; Grimm, "Leidengeschichte Christi", the writers seem to have judged that historical or critical research was inconsistent with the ascetical purpose of their works.


    http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11527b.htm


    For more on the "mystics":

    http://www.SeekGod.ca/gibsonbridget.htm

    For the complete analyses of the movie:

    http://www.SeekGod.ca/topicmovie.htm
     
  14. Spirit and Truth

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    The latest merchandising of The Gospel. I wonder how much money will be exchanged for advertising time when this is aired? Jesus was protective of the things of God, and became so righteously indignant, that He tipped over the tables in the temple and chased out the money changers. Something to think about....

    THE PASSION' UNLEASED
    Documentary to show lives changed by film
    Viewers of Gibson's movie claim it has produced 'miracles'

    http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=37776


    Is this any different than Benny Hinn's followers testifying on TV that the have been healed of life threatening diseases, and then when the investigative reporters do the followup, they find out that they died of the very disease they were reportedly "healed' of. This is sad for two reasons. First, it is sad because they have resorted to a circus like enviroment to try and merchandise another Gospel, and secondly, because it has been pointed out time and time again that this movie is contaminated with false teaching, idol worship, and mysticism, and it's supporters knowing this, are still trying to advance this as a tool of preaching another Gospel and another Jesus to the world. I only hope that a few years from now, that they have a followup series "Miracles of the Passion and the people who reported them, where are they now?"
     
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    Should we recommend a movie that exalts Mary and portrays her as having supernatural powers?

    A very wise man once said:

    1 Corinthians 10

    19 What then do I say, that an idol is anything, or that an idolatrous sacrifice is anything?
    20 But the things the nations sacrifice, "they sacrifice to demons, and not to God." Deut. 32:17 But I do not want you to become sharers of demons;
    21 you cannot drink the cup of the Lord and a cup of demons; you cannot partake of the table of the Lord, and a table of demons.
    22 Or do we provoke the Lord to jealousy? Are we stronger than He? Deut. 32:21


    This man's credentials were highly reputed.......by God and Jesus:

    Acts 26

    15 And I said, Who are you, Sir? And He said, I am Jesus whom you persecute;
    16 but rise up and stand on your feet, for it is for this reason I appeared to you, to appoint you a servant and a witness both of what you saw, and in what I shall appear to you,
    17 having delivered you from the people and the nations, to whom I now send you,
    18 to open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the authority of Satan to God, in order that they may receive remission of sins, and an inheritance among those being sanctified by faith in Me.

    Acts 9
    10 And there was a certain disciple in Damascus named Ananias. And the Lord said to him in a vision, Ananias! And he said, Behold, Lord, I am here.
    11 And the Lord said to him, Rising up pass along on the street being called Straight and seek a Tarsian, Saul by name, in the house of Judas. For, behold, he is praying.
    12 And he has seen in a vision a man named Ananias coming in and putting a hand on him, so that he may see again.
    13 And Ananias answered, Lord, I have heard from many about this man, how many bad things he did to Your saints in Jerusalem.
    14 And here he has authority from the chief priests to bind all the ones calling on Your name.
    15 And the Lord said to him, Go, for this one is a chosen vessel to Me, to bear My name before nations and kings and the sons of Israel.

    Acts 22
    12 And a certain Ananias, a devout man according to the Law, having been testified to by all the Jews living there,
    13 coming to me and standing by, he said to me, Brother Saul, look up. And in the same hour I looked up on him.
    14 And he said, The God of our fathers appointed you to know His will, and to see the Just One, and to hear a voice out of His mouth;
    15 for you shall be a witness for Him to all men of what you have seen and heard.
     
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    If you are going to see the Passion for the first time, or if it is your tenth time because you love it so much, be sure to take this handy dandy checklist with you:

    http://www.biblebb.com/files/passion5.htm
     
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    Indifference or Ignorance: 

    The Practice of Idolatry Within the Church

     by Richard Bennett and Randall Paquette 

    Praise for Mel Gibsons The Passion of the Christ, has resounded from pulpit to pew.  It is evident that there are many Christians who, without reservation, are prepared to accept movies about Christ, even one in the Catholic tradition.  The question therefore that must be asked is this:  in the light of Scripture, is their position defendable or do they fall under the condemnation of Almighty God?    

     No revival without the true Gospel and a righteous anger against Images

    Evangelicals have discovered themselves confronting crisis upon crisis.  After decades of endeavor and aggregate growth, moral turpitude and the apparent demise of marriage like corrupt weeds, blossom before their face.  The modus vivendi embodied in the 1994 Evangelicals & Catholics Together (ECT) still confuses and deceives.  Its ecclesiastical endorsement has further led many Evangelical churches to believe that there is no essential difference between Catholicism and Biblical Christianity.  The dramatic Passion movie perpetuates the lie.  In the Evangelical camp, the carnal pandering of seeker sensitive churches loiters unquestioned.  The unregenerate fill the pews, and silence, the pulpits.  There is no conviction of sin, because the Gospel is unavowed.  Within the Reformed churches there is division, contention, and strife caused by the Auburn Avenue controversy and the New Perspective on Justification.  Revival has been preached, pursued, and prayed for and still remains aloof.  We have been with child, we have been in pain, we have as it were, brought forth wind; we have not wrought any deliverance in the earth; neither have the inhabitants of the world fallen.[1] In the soil of another Gospel can spring no revival!  In the temple of images and pictures can come no renewal!  From Moses unto Hosea, those who sought to revive the spirit of the nation and would have hearts return to a true worship of God, condemned images.  And that which is condemned in the Old Testament is not justified in the New Testament.[2]   The great revivals in Christian history have flourished under the true Gospel and the denunciation of idolatry.  So it was with the Vaudois, the Waldenses, the Lollards, the Bohemians, and the Reformers.  In the Dark Ages, luminaries such as Girolamo Savonarola, John Wycliffe, and John Huss attacked the corruption of idolatry and preached the Gospel.


                 In the Great Awakening in the USA, preachers inspired by George Whitefield, Jonathan Edwards, and William Law, sought to glorify God in the Gospel by uniting veracious worship with the censuring of images.  If Jesse Lee had not come into Massachusetts, some one else pressed in spirit, like Paul at Athens when he saw the city wholly given to idolatry, would have found utterance and would have had followers.[3]  Following Jonathan Edwards publication of the journal of David Brainerd, The revival had greatest impact when Brainerd emphasised the compassion of the Saviour, the provisions of the gospel, and the free offer of divine grace.  Idolatry was abandoned, marriages repaired, drunkenness practically disappeared.Their communities were filled with love.[4]   The witness of this testimony must not remain unheeded if we are to receive the blessing we long for from On High, for what agreement hath the temple of God with idols?[5]

     Christs Divine Person is revealed only in One human body

    Christians reason within themselves that since God became a man in the person of Christ, a picture of Jesus is but an image of an image.  Their rationalization is that the Incarnation is justification, if not authorization, for us to depict Christ in human form.  They argue further that no portrait can display a mans soul, thus Christs body can be legitimately pictured distinct from His Divinity.  Poor deluded Christians, unwilling to severe the last vestiges of carnal thinking, averse to bringing every thought to the obedience of Christ.  Christ remains amongst humanity unique.  Attempts to represent this uniqueness in human form (an achievement that God alone could do in the Incarnation) destroy it.  The multiplicity of depictions with various facial features, hues and expressions, denies it.  A man has but one nature, and thus he can be legitimately portrayed with no offense to what he is, but not so Christ who is also Divine; and to make Him into an image like unto corruptible man is to transgress the Law and insult the Godhead.  Those who saw Christ upon this earth, had before their eyes God manifest in the flesh.  What animistic artist or photographer could claim such for his effort?  What do we have then?  Is it not an attempt to create a likeness of the One of Whom we have no likeness?  This then is the very essence of idolatry the false representation of God.  In the silence of our chambers we should reverently pray, Who is like unto thee, O LORD, among the gods? who is like thee, glorious in holiness, fearful in praises, doing wonders?[6], and lo, the answer thunders down through the ages, I am God, and there is none like me[7]

                 The Person of Christ consists of two indivisible natures the Human and the Divine.  He who manifested in the flesh was really and truly God.[8]  And yet, it was real human flesh.  Forasmuch as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same[9]  Pictures or movies of Christ are merely portraits of a human body.  It is totally impossible to show forth the divinity of Christ; this only His body in heaven can now do, For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.[10]  The fullness of the Godhead dwells in Christ, and not figuratively, for he is both God and man.  This fullness can never be found in types, figures, and likenesses of Him.  Any such replication is utter deceit.  Whenever a bodily form is ascribed to Christ Jesus, it remains a gross lie.  This fact - that Christ Jesus is both God and man - is a great and central doctrine of Christian faith.  What Evangelicals fail to comprehend is that by so representing Christ, they are perjuring themselves before the All Holy God because all depictions of Him succeed in showing humanity bereft of divinity. What profiteth the graven imagea teacher of lies, that the maker of his work trusteth therein, to make dumb idols?[11]  The words of Scripture alone patently present the divinity of Christ.

                 Christ Jesus in His person and human nature is the express image of God.  Whoever has seen Him has seen the Father.[12]  If Jesus were only a man, albeit the best of men, it would be quite acceptable to portray Him.  But Christ is not!  He is the express image of God, Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person.[13]  This image involves His eternal essence and as such is singular and cannot not replicated or reproduced.  Those who accept pictures and movies of Christ fail to comprehend that they have reduced Christs incarnation to humanity alone.  These representations ignore the inimitable character of Christ Jesus as the unexampled express image of God.  While He is truly a man, yet Christs humanity cannot be separated from His divinity.  Such practice perpetuates the heresy of Nestorius who taught that Jesus was two distinct persons, one human and one divine.[14]

                 The uniqueness of Christ Jesus coupled with the command not to practice idolatry is given in the strongest terms in the New Testament. And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ.  This is the true God, and eternal life.  Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.[15]    There can be no doubt that He of whom it is said, in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God, and, all things were made by him, and without him was not anything made that was made; Who Himself declared I and my Father are one, was worshipped as my Lord and my God!  He is very God of very God.

                 Do we imagine that God in His omniscience did not foresee portraits or pictures, canvas or cameras?  Are we wiser that He?  There beats within the heart of every man a craving for visible forms to give _expression to religious beliefs.  Because of this evil desire, the Lord God has forbidden idolatry, warning of its corrupting influence.  If believers have been deceived in this matter, it is our desire and prayer that they see the truth of Gods Word and understand that they have been feeding upon ashes and say, For the idols have spoken vanity, and the diviners have seen a lie, and have told false dreams; they comfort in vain.[16]

    Presentations that confuse the distinction between God and His created world

    A picture or movie of Christ because of inherent limitations, resides in the world of created things.  Whatever aspirations may be intended, it can rise no higher than that which it is.  Hence it blurs the distinctness between God and man, confusing the Creator with the creation.  The Apostle Paul reveals the cause of this confusion, Because that when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.[17]  This digression, the Apostle tells us, continues because, professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man.[18]  The problem is this:  to whom then will ye liken God? or what likeness will ye compare unto Him?[19].  The Scriptural answer is unequivocal:  be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect will of God.[20]


                 Any attempted portrayal of Christ transforms the medium itself into a mediator between God and man.  The viewer, restricted within the confines this humanistic plane, imagines that he knows the Lord, at least in some measure.  With this inculcated image of Christ throbbing within his mind, the viewer is allowed to wander, silently thinking his own thoughts, constrained by an impression that is not Christ.  Thus, the viewers mind continues to be conformed to the world by the created image and by his own subjectivity.  Although such visual presentations appeal strongly to the sensual impulses, they do not present explicitly to any man the objective truth concerning the Lord. 

                 Our knowledge of Jesus Christ must be formed from the truths in Scripture and not by subjective impressions of artistic interpretation.  In the latter, the artist and the viewer coalesce God and His creation into a single entity within the picture, and this is the visible _expression of idolatry.  This spurious image lays the foundation for a pantheistic concept of God.  Marvel not then that, Soaring pagan numbers have churches worrying and calling for stricter controls on cult TV programs and films that celebrate sorcery like Harry Potter, Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Sabrina the Teenage Witch.[21]  The command given in Scripture is to choose Gods way so as to know and follow Christ in His Word!  When obeyed, upon the pages of Scripture, in the words of the Law, in the grace of the Gospel, we know Him in spirit and truth. 

    We do not see Jesus Christ with the physical eye.  This is the whole meaning of faith.  The excellence of the object of faith is the unseen Jesus.  While sense deals with things that are seen, reason is a higher plane.  Faith however ascends further still, and assures us of abundance of particulars that sense and reason could never have found.  Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.[22] Faith nourishes itself I had fainted unless I had believed to see[23]- upon the power and promises of the Unseen.  We can understand, then, the logic and consistent purpose of why the Lord God forbids images. 

     Pictures and movies that break Gods Law and defile Gods Grace

    Evangelical churches demonstrate an ignorance of the meaning of the Second Commandment, which forbids using images to represent God. 


    Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.  Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; and showing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.[24] 


    This commandment prohibits the creation and use of graven images.  It essentially brings to mind that God is a Spirit, not to be conceived of or fashioned in mans image, or any other creature.  In Deuteronomy 4:12-16 is found a concomitant passage,


    And the LORD spake unto you out of the midst of the fire: ye heard the voice of the words, but saw no similitude; only ye heard a voice.  And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone.  And the LORD commanded me at that time to teach you statutes and judgments, that ye might do them in the land whither ye go over to possess it.  Take ye therefore good heed unto yourselves; for ye saw no manner of similitude on the day that the LORD spake unto you in Horeb out of the midst of the fire:  Lest ye corrupt yourselves, and make you a graven image, the similitude of any figure, the likeness of male or female.


    What is forbidden is the similitude of Lord Himself.  No similitude of the Divine was given to the people and none was to be made.  And in the New Testament, we see that no similitude of Christ Jesus was given, and the commandment must remain unabridged.  Any similitude or image of Father, Son or Holy Spirit is sinful and insulting to the majesty of the Lord God.  And what of those who seek balm for their conscience in preferring pictures over statues, as if the lack of one dimension transforms the image into a thing acceptable unto God?  They well imagine that they have acted more nobly toward the Lord because theirs is not a graven image.  It comforts them not to be upon the Roman road of idolatry, oblivious to the fact that they parallel it upon the Greek route.[25]  God forbids the making of a likeness of anything.  Therefore it is a transgression of Gods law to make a representation or semblance of anything in heaven or upon the earth, to delineate God.  He calls those who break this commandment those who hate me,[26] and those who keep the commandment, those who love me[27].  Punishment for iniquity is promised to the transgressors, while blessing is pledged to its adherents.  From Gods perspective idolatry is spiritual adultery, so with the indignant reaction of a betrayed husband, He continues, for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me.[28]



     The Lesson of the Golden Calf



    The children of Israel languished in impatience and unbelief at the base of Mount Sinai, waiting for Moses, who seemingly would not return.  Impatience grew into murmuring, murmuring into vociferation.  God they had never seen with their eyes; and now His anointed, this Moses. . .we wot not what is become of him.  He too, it appeared, had vanished, never to return.  Up, they enjoined Aaron, make us gods.  The corporeal yearning of their hearts demanded visible forms for religious _expression.  But there is a price to be paid; the pure must be forfeited to produce the crass.  They must part with their gold, and bring it to Aaron and he took it, and fashioned it with a graving tool, after he had made it a molten calf: and they said, These be thy gods (Elohim), O Israel, which brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.  And when Aaron saw it, he built an altar before it; and Aaron made proclamation, and said, Tomorrow is a feast to the LORD.  The children of Israel looked upon this idol and called it Elohim. . .which brought thee up out of Egypt.  Aaron ratified this designation, for with the image as centerpiece, tomorrow would be a feast to Jehovah.  But what did God see?  The answer is given in Scripture, They made a calf in Horeb and worshipped the molten image.  Thus they changed their Glory into the similitude of an ox that eateth grass; they forgat God their Savior.[29]



                 The Apostle Paul tells us that idolatry is changing, the Glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like unto corruptible man, and to birds, and to fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.[30]  What was their Glory, and is the Churchs glory, is in truth the Glory of God Himself and it cannot, and must not, be represented by an image of a man or a beast.  God, knowing the evil inclinations of men, and their struggle to justify their ungodly deeds, especially those done in the name of religion has declared, For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the Glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.[31]  Whatever theologians may debate concerning this verse, one thing is clear; if you give a physical representation to Christs face, then you have defined and defiled the Glory of God.  Whether a man or an ox that eateth grass any attempt to replicate that Glory, save that which God does Himself, is idolatry.



     An overview of the Christian history of idolatry



    The Apostles, whose epistles and gospels are the very oracles of God, are men who could say, That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of Life,[32] never give a physical description of Christ.  Rather, they proclaimed what He said and what He did.  They emphasize His death and resurrection, explaining the significance of these events, and the necessity of faith in them in order to be saved.  The Apostle Paul pointedly states that we know Jesus no longer after the flesh.[33]   Peter says of Christ, Whom having not seen, ye love, in Whom though now ye see Him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory.  And men and women, regenerated by the Holy Spirit, exulted in the unseen Christ just as the Patriarchs had done in the unseen Jehovah, neither did they clamor for a description of the Lord.  The New Testament muteness on this point is an essential compliance with the dictates of the Old Testament.  Any other contemporaneous source claiming to provide a description of Christ is extracanonical.


                 In the first two centuries of the Church, Christians did not use images to represent Christ.  During this infancy the early Christians would not bow to the image of Caesar nor to any work of mans hands.  They had no images, statues, or pictures; they well understood that the God they worshipped would never have accepted such an affront, for He alone is God.  How then did idolatry come into the Church?  It was a process of time, indifference, ignorance and deceit.  In the year 313 A.D., when the Roman Emperor Constantine declared Christianity to be the official religion of the Empire, pagans by governmental edict, and not regeneration, found themselves to be Christians.  Not knowing God or the Gospel, they flooded the Church, idols in their arms, in their homes, in their minds, and in their hearts.  True believers, however, opposed pictures and statues as representing Christ.  The controversy raged back and forth for several centuries, and there was much turmoil over the matter.  In the midst of this battle, Pope Gregory the Great I (604) presented a seemingly innocent and compellingly plausible argument in their favor.  He wrote to Bishop Serenus of Marseilles, who had destroyed the images in his diocese, What books are to those who can read, that is a picture to the ignorant who look at it; in a picture even the unlearned may see what example they should follow; in a picture they who know no letters may yet read.  Hence, for barbarians especially a picture takes the place of a book.[34]  Such carnal reasoning usurps authority from the Word of God.  But in truth, if the illiterate cannot read, they can certainly hear and faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the Word of God, because it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.  Then in the year 754 A.D., a large council of bishops declared that such pictures are not biblical and therefore are not acceptable in the Church.  Twenty-three years later however another council of bishops reversed that teaching.  The Second Council of Nicea, which met in 787 A.D, required the use of pictures and statues as signifying Christ.  This inexcusable idolatry of the Roman Catholic Church led into the Dark Ages.  When the Reformation came, and with it the true Gospel, there was also a condemnation of the evils of idolatry.  To escape idolatry, many people left the Catholic Church, and Bible based churches sprang up in many countries.  At the time of the Reformation both pastors and people realized that everything respecting God that is learned from images is both futile and false.


    O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err


    . . . and destroy the way of thy paths.[35]  How did it come to this?  It may well be argued that the spirit of Jezebel is alive in the Church, and she is teaching His servants to eat things sacrificed unto idols.[36]  As with any education this one commences in the elementary grades the decorative religious pictures, the carnal reasoning, the excuses and justification, and the assurance that the incipient deed will go no further.  But she knows that every man is at heart an idolater, and it takes but a blink of the eye to go from hanging an image to bowing the knee.  Thus, once the rudimentary lessons are learned and accepted, her students are almost certain to progress into a papal form of idolatry.  Unless vigilance is exercised in guarding against that initial step, the conclusion is inevitable.  Because Christ is the focus of Christianity, any picture that attempts to portray Him, becomes special in comparison to all others.  Although the picture is not Christ, nor is it an honest replication of Him; eventually however, in the mind of observer, it will be both.  It must certainly be the latter initially, else why hang a picture of an unknown stranger upon the wall?   Ask the owner of that picture, Who is this? and he shall answer without hesitation, and with no more proof than general consensus, It is Jesus, when in fact it is not, and thus it fulfills all the criteria necessary to qualify as an idol a false representation of God.  And because he is certain that this image is Jesus, he is bound by his respect for Christ to honor the picture, but honor will eventually give way to reverence, and reverence shall cede to veneration.  Surely this is the curse that he binds about the necks of his childrens, childrens children.  It is to be feared that this warning will fall upon deaf ears.  Many who call themselves Christian have a cavalier attitude toward the issue of idolatry.  They rationalize along these lines.  I am saved and I use pictures, movies and videos of Christ, therefore, pictures, movies and videos of Christ cannot be wrong.  Hence, God no longer is adjudicator of what is right and what is wrong, the creature is, presuming upon the holy gift of salvation as a license to do his own pleasure.  Gods Word ceases to be the basis for what is believed, but what is believed becomes the interpreter of Gods Word.  In effect, the Christians will becomes the arbitrator that reins in the truth of Scripture.  How difficult is it then to adopt Catholicisms official teaching, By becoming incarnate, the Son of God introduced a new economy of images,[37] and relegate the Word of the Lord to the status of a silent partner?

                 It seems that none of us is ever far from the taint of Egypt.  It cleaves to our garments, and beckons us back in the night watches.  Unless prayerful and vigilant, we succumb, perhaps not at once, but by moments and by steps.  That which was an object of our indifference becomes a focus of our need.  Mark this well:  the pictures that this generation hangs in the temple will be the idols, which the next generation shall worship.  There is little hesitation to insert the adjective sacred before the word picture, and this will provide the rationale for veneration.  How many Christians have defended the picture of Christ adorning their wall by saying that they worship not the image, but that which the image represents.  Do they honestly believe that by this sophistry they honor God?  Indeed, they posit as the papists do today, and postulate as the pagans did yesterday.  The ancient pagans lived in societies awash with statues and shrines dedicated to each god.  These idolaters also believed that when they knelt before their effigies, they were worshipping the gods, which the image represented.  No doubt this association, allied with natural superstition, imparted a sentient quality to the idol for the worshipper, but let this fact be counted a warning rather than a distinction.  Does not the Church of Rome, where truth once again bows to superstition, claim miracles of animation their idols?  Her votaries have testified of statues that move, weep and bleed.[38]  This is the legacy of all idolatry. 


     What Then Should One Do?  


    As we read of the high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens,[39] and the better promises[40] that He has for His people in the New Covenant than in the Old, we have a great well-founded hope for true conviction on this fundamental issue.  The promise given is explicit and most encouraging.  How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?[41]  The efficacy of Christ Jesus blood is very great.  It is sufficient to reach to the very soul and conscience.  A soul defiled with idolatry can be purged, its conscience assuaged and enabled to serve the living God.  The blood of Christ through the gracious influences of the Holy Spirit not only convicts but also absolves the true believer enabling him to serve the living God in a worthy manner.

                       The Apostle Paul proceeds most strongly called on all to repent from the absurdity of idolatry, not merely those who knowingly and willfully engaged in it, but those who in ignorance did so, And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent.[42]  Men greatly dishonor God if they make Him after the likeness of a mere human body.  It is like unto the sin of apostasy in that it puts Christ Jesus to open shame.  Most beloved, to imagine that it is acceptable to present the Lord in human flesh that is not His own glorified flesh is to engage in idolatry. 
                

                There is no higher obligation than to obey the command of God.  It can be done.  God does not expect the impossible.  It is a fearful thing to think that some have concluded that this matter of idolatry is inconsequential.  There will be no revival in the absence of the true Gospel.  There will be no revival without sincere repentance for making and using images, which is the predominant sin of movies and pictures that portray the Lord Jesus Christ. Little children, keep yourselves from idols.  ?


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