Featured It's a Sin to Disrespect the President and to not Submit to his Authority

Evidently you have such a long ignore list you can't remember who's on it or you just prefer to pretend you don't read my posts . . . whatever.

Anyways . . . I read what was in your post and your link. And I quote . . .

"After weighing their options, the House Ways and Means Committee drew up a bill to tax personal and corporate incomes. This bill, the first income tax measure in the United States, called for a 3% tax on incomes over $800. Although the bill quickly passed in both the House and the Senate, it was never put into operation. Still, it paved the way for the next bill of its kind."

Unless I am mistaken never being put into operation means it was never put into operation. Therefore and henceforth . . .

Now if someone would be so kind as to quote this post so Salty can read it without blowing his undercover act I'd be much obliged. :smilewinkgrin:

 

He knows that. Unlike you he's just feigning ignorance.

 

Yeah, I told him that too. He's too busy thinking of words with which he can defend an unqualified and unmitigated disaster, to pay any attention to reason.

 

... as opposed to actually being ig-- ... never mind.

Just trying to help with the translation. :thumbsup:

 

Read Scarlett's thread, folks.

 

Zaac does not actually care. He is just defending a black President.

 

A Flawed Thought?

Need I do anything else but remind you Zaac, that millions of Germans submitted to a madman named Hitler...and we all know what happened there.

Let me point out a few things to think about in that text:

"Be a good citizen. All governments are under God. (1) - Insofar as there is peace and order, it’s God’s order. So live responsibly as a citizen. If you’re irresponsible to the state, then you’re irresponsible with God, and God will hold you responsible. Duly constituted authorities are only a threat if you’re trying to get by with something. Decent citizens should have nothing to fear.

Do you want to be on good terms with the government? Be a responsible citizen and you’ll get on just fine, (2) - the government working to your advantage. But if you’re breaking the rules right and left, watch out. The police aren’t there just to be admired in their uniforms. God also has an interest in keeping order, and he uses them to do it. That’s why you must live responsibly—not just to avoid punishment but also because it’s the right way to live.

That’s also why you pay taxes—so that an orderly way of life can be maintained. Fulfill your obligations as a citizen. Pay your taxes, pay your bills, respect your leaders."

I believe that Paul presented two exceptions to this, as noted above...

1) Insofar as there is PEACE and ORDER. Granted we have peace, but "Order" is suspect in the manner in which our government is now running!

2) The government needs to be working for OUR ADVANTAGE! Again, is this government currently working for the advantage of the majority?

You need to ask yourself these questions! IMHO, there seems to be a rapid decay in the order by which this government is following the Constitution and applying laws [taxes] in a fair, non biased manner! And it is growing more and more questionable as to whether this president, and our majority leaders are truly working in favor of the majority.

*They have overlooked the majority when it comes to forcing same-sex marriage upon a nation that still holds marriage in highest esteem!
*Are those who claim to be born-again believers following this Pauline directive "whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted" when they come over our borders improperly and illegally, is that not rebelling? When they set up housekeeping and have babies [under the Anchor Baby laws], not rebelling? Obtaining illegal social security cards and drivers licenses, is that not rebelling?....Are illegals, according to Paul's terms in the text, NOT REBELLING against the government??? Should they not adhere to this part of Paul's teaching? Are they not guilty of sin???
*Should those who live here ILLEGALLY not be subject to this part of Paul's teaching? "But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason." BTW - our government is once again not following what is expected of them as they FAIL to use the sword [of justice] to deport those wrongfully here! And that leaves us one more reason not to OBEY the law of the land, and to call it on the carpet!

I appreciate your post, as it truly gave me a new and refreshing view of this text in Romans 12. It sure seems that this government is in violation of not doing its part, which brings into question the right for the majority to rise up and question, and disrespect, as you say, those in leadership of this once great nation!

I'd have to say that those of us who are annoyed with the government have a right to be angry, frustrated and disappointed, and we are not living in any form of sin, because this government has not met the basic requirements as laid out by Paul!

I wonder what Paul would've done had he lived in our day and time of moral and political corruption! I'm sure his fiery spirit would be leveling the boom of judgement on the lack of social mores, and the decay of law and order! :wavey:

 

Here we go again. Who's the ruler of this nation? Hint: it ain't the President.

 

Love Scarlett's thread.

Look, folks, here's the straight poop on this thread: Zaac doesn't like y'all calling our president names (and yes, he's "our" president, whether you voted for him or not, whether you disagree with him or not; just as military members are required to obey and follow their appointed commanders whether we like them or not, or disagree with them, yada yada blah blah blah....).

Never mind that calling someone names has nothing to do with submitting to their authority; never mind that that professing that their actions are contrary to scripture has nothing to do with honoring their position...well, as y'all have pointed out for eight pages, Zaac has mis-applied scripture ... simply because he doesn't like y'all calling the president things like "great pretender."

But Zaac also achieved his goal. He likes stirring things up around here. He never actually debates anything. He never supports his position on any topic he introduces. He never uses any sources to actually prove anyone wrong; he just talks about the body of Christ being nicer and more loving than even Christ was.

But his purpose was achieved; eight pages, and he still holds to the position he started with, despite all the scriptural evidence provided him unequivocably showing his misapplication of scripture...which means that all he's really doing is trying to get our goats...and I'd have to say, we're letting him succeed.

 

It has EVERYTHING to do with what Zaac likes, and you like this unmitigated disaster that calls himself an American and got himself elected to the office, so you're going to defend him regardless of how destructive and dangerous he is to the Constitution and the American way of life. You'd let him demolish democracy and replace it with a police-state socialist government -- which, by the way, he is trying to do -- and you would applaud his every move.

You'd defend him if he woke up in the middle of the night and slew Michelle and the kids, coming up with some excuse about how he, and only he, knew they were Iranian spies. The really scary thing about it is, you and a good portion of the black population would believe a story like that.

You have no more Christian intent in defending this man and chastising those who do than Judas had in betraying Christ. I think I've had enough of you.

 

Some of the silly things I see about the Pres. on facebook are kinda unfair...but then some of them are also too funny not to laugh. (And of course it helps that I'm not really a fan of him myself.)
Like this: http://iamtheunison.deviantart.com/art/Brainless-Obama-413103610
Come on, tell me that isn't funny.:laugh::tonofbricks:



It's good to question authority in a democratic/republic society, IMO. Since we elect our leaders, we can't view them as flawless and just agree with whatever they want to happen--we're the people and we have a say, dang it. The President isn't supposed to be there to lord it over us.


Do we respect his office as president and ordained leader? Yeah. And my dad made it a habit to pray for him. That doesn't mean he didn't laugh at political cartoons or not criticize him.