Jacob I loved and Esau I hated = individual election?

Allan · Feb 15, 2010

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Thanks Webdog. She'll be here, Lord willing, on or about June 17. I know it shows faith-less-ness, but I worry and worry until I'm holding the little screaming baby in the delivery room. Then, the worry lasts for evermore.

Thanks again,

The Archangel
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Congrats brothers on God's blessing to your family. I agree with Web though.. it is the same with every father. Only I remember having 'less' worry than I do now that they are born :laugh:

BaptistBob · Feb 16, 2010

Allan said: ↑

I agree pretty much with Wiersby's take regarding Chapter 9 as a reflection of my own study:
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It appears I've underestimated him all these years, and I have no excuse. My loss.

Winman · Feb 16, 2010

Allan said: ↑

Congrats brothers on God's blessing to your family. I agree with Web though.. it is the same with every father. Only I remember having 'less' worry than I do now that they are born :laugh:
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Congratulations on the coming arrival Archangel. Don't worry, it just makes you feel bad and accomplishes nothing, trust God.

I have 8 children ranging from 8 years old all the way up to 33. It gets old hat after awhile, but I do admit I always got edgy those last few days before the baby was due. I always worried I would be at work or away at zero hour.

Skandelon · Feb 20, 2010

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Archangel,

Before we go any further I think we need to clarify something. What do you think Paul means when he speaks of them being "grafted into the vine?" In other words, what does the "vine" represent in your view? That will help me understand what you are arguing here.
I'll work on that ASAP. In fact, I'm working now--but it may be some time later that I answer.

Blessings,

The Archangel
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Jarthur,

I don't know if you read through this entire thread, but I'd be interested to know how you interpret Romans 11. What do you believe the olive tree represents in Paul's analogy? And what do you suppose he means when he speaks of the Jews being cut off from the tree while the Gentiles are being grafted in? And what do you think he means when he talks about the Jews being grafted back into the tree if they leave their unbelief?

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Skandelon,

I have a few days of writing ahead of me. It maybe a few days before I get back. I will address this and anything else. If there are other things in chapter 11 you want to know my views, please send me a note. Other wise, I'll just address the tree.

James
Not trying to offend anyone, just pointing out a pattern. My hope is that Jarthur won't follow Archangel's precedent.
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Just a reminder to these two about Romans 11. Thanks, and take your time.

Skandelon · Feb 22, 2010

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