James 2:14

Grant:
You said,"Being a bishop is not the same as being a deacon (obviously) or presbyrter (which is synonymous with elder)." I did not say they were the same. In fact I said they were simply servants,( Diakoneo) not overseers, pastors, bishops, shepherds. I believe we agree on this.
Furthermore, the text uses the Greek word DEI in reference to the husband of one wife. It is a divine must, not optional. One cannot be married and not married at the same time. You do not understand grammar or the text. If I accepted your view, one could be a figurative husband of a figurative wife with figurative children. I guess then you would have a figurative bishop. Dei means must. If one is not married, he is not qualified. The text demands it, your magisterium vote not withstanding.

Furthermore, the text does not say maried only once. It says must be the husband of one wife. DEI Must Be, Must Be, no exceptions!

You said,"You're just attacking what you can't comprehend because you haven't experienced it yourself. Few are called to such a life, and few are expected to be called to it."

Why should I believe you could comprehend it. You do not even understand the word must.That is an illogical statement. I guess you think one has to have HEART PROBLEMS to be an open heart surgeon. I honestly do not see what made you say such an illogical thing!

God did not leave me in charge any more than he left your pope or magisterium in charge. Again, I honestly cannot follow your irrational statements. I never affirmed he left me in charge.

 

No, I understand must completely. The problem lies in what one must do. He must be the husband of but one wife. He does NOT have to be married; the restriction is to marry only once, and no more.

I pity the pious servant of God...who is married...but has not children for whatever reason (medical or otherwise), that is denied a position in your church because he does not meet this pseudo criteria.

If a man is married, and is given the office of bishop, he can be the husband of but one woman. That does not mean he has to be married. If he is married, and if he has children, obviously he must be a good father.

The must is to marry only once, and no more.

Probably because I've been called to the priesthood and the celibate life.

Right. The fact is that He DID leave the Church in charge, and not Frank.

And you did affirm that he left you in charge, because you condemn beliefs that differ from your own.

God bless,

Grant

 

I sensed no condescending attitude, but a legitamate question. If you don't want to answer it, don't. But don't misrepresent what he said, either. Frank has been quite well behaved considering the attacks he has recieved by Catholic supporters.

Brother Curtis, Baptist Board Mod Squad.

 

Hi Brother Curtis,

You wrote, "I sensed no condescending attitude"

From what I can glean, Bro. Curtis, We have different standards of dialogue.

Here are some of the statements of Frank, which I speak of on this thread in order to better point out what I refer to. I do not expect for you to agree with me, but I do wish that you will respect my desire to be spoken to in a manner that excludes the genre of statements represented below.

"Carson should remove the beam out of his own eye before trying to remove the mote out of the eyes of others."

"You have been reading to many extra biblical opinions from those who could not spell Christian, much less be able to find it in the New Testament"

"PROVE IT!"

"Carson: You are truly amazing."

"Carson: That seems to be your attitude about the New Testament of Christ. 'HUH?'", quoting my confused resonse of "huh?".

You may not sense a language of condescension, but I do, and therein lies the difference between our opinions.

yours in Christ,

Carson

[ October 25, 2002, 10:43 AM: Message edited by: Carson Weber ]

 

Hi Brother Curtis,

In your profile, you write as your short personal statement concerning Jesus, "The way, the truth, the light." Do you mean to quote John 14:6 or is this your own phrase?

God bless,

Carson

[ October 25, 2002, 09:39 PM: Message edited by: Carson Weber ]

 

Thanx for pointing that out to me, Carson. I fixed it right away.

You da' man.