Jason Lisle and Hugh Ross debate

I read the book by Hugh Ross, and as well as I remember, his proofs were nothing more than the evolutionists use to "prove" and old earth; IE science.

I would have absolutely no problem with an old earth if I were not a Christian, but this fact changes my whole paradigm.

 

The quality of Dr. Ross' audio is so poor that I can hardly hear him at times.

The same interview with better quality is presented on Hugh Ross's site, "Reasons to Believe" using RealPlayer.

HUGH ROSS/JASON LISLE DISCUSSION

Is Jason Lisle the same Jason that was trying to debate this topic on this BaptistBoard a while back?

Rob

 

Do you have a transcript? I really am not going to sit and listen to that for any length of time. A transcript iwill read. I read one from a debate with Jonathon Wells over the weekend. Didn't bother with the audio and could not even tell you if it was offered.

 

That transcript would have been a lot shorter without all the pot-shots from the AiG peanut gallery.

While I don't agree with either debater about the creation days, on the age-of-the-earth issue I agree with Ross.

This is what I thought was the best point of the debate (my slight changes are in brackets):

In one exchange, I think Ross missed a perfect opening. They were discussing Jesus' statement in Mark 10:6 that "But from the beginning of creation, 'God made them male and female' ":

At this point, Ross should have asked, "How long did creation take?" Lisle would of course respond, "Six 24-hour days." Ross could then reply, "So the beginning of creation would be the first day, not the sixth day? And yet Genesis 1 states that the first humans, male and female, were made on the sixth day. Was Jesus wrong, since this actually happened at the end of the period you call creation and not at the beginning?"

The point, of course, is that there's many ways to take Mark 10:6 literally. What Lisle wants isn't for everyone to read the verse literally, but to read it the same way he reads it. He rejects other literal interpretations just as quickly as other people reject his interpretation.