Jerry Falwell Question?

Thank you Jim!

The older I get, the more I realize that I need to be ready to share my testimony with gentleness and respect. (Of course, I did read that in the Bible. It's just taken a long time for it to sink in )

 

There was only one perfect man that ever walked this earth, and he was crucified.

I do believe that Bro Falwell drifted from fundamentalism, and I am enrolled in LU online. But that was his choice as a Baptist. There are many in this forum who have drifted from fundamentalism....I love TinyTim's statement about autonomy....yep, Baptists are a different sort. My Dad was a very hard core Southern Baptist. He would be better suited to IFB (as I am now) if he were still alive.

Preach Christ, crucified, risen and ascended....and preach Grace and Mercy....preach repentance and acceptance of salvation, preach once saved - always saved, and you are ok with me - the other points are personal, between you and God. (I watch movies, my former Pastor preached against them. There is doctrine and then there are preferences)

So I too look forward to meeting Bro Falwell in Heaven.

Debbie Mc :jesus:

 

"unwarranted personal and derogatory attack"??

please.

Well, then....just hit that yellow triangle in the top right corner of my posts. Show the mods all my attacks.

Be prepared to be covered in laugh-spittle.

 

Brother Bell,

I'm behind you all the way, but laugh-spittle? ewwwwwwww

Sister Griffin

 

Well, I am definitely NOT an "ultra-fundie" myself. In fact, I'm not even a fundamentalist, but rather an evangelical, even though I certainly hold to the five "good" fundamentals you mentioned above. Perhaps that makes me a hybrid of some sort? :laugh:

Could you name several of these "ultra-fundies"? Every Christian forum I go to, there seems to be a lot of people complaining about "all the ultra-fundies" giving "us" a bad name. Thus I presume there must be a lot of these "ultra-fundies" around.

I know secular liberals refer to the SBC as "ultra-fundie", even though they're not. So please point out some real ones to us.

Thanks.

 

A google search of these is interesting:

seminary cemetery -seminary's "King James Bible" "Jerry Falwell"

Please do your own research.
Thank you.

Recall i've been a Conservative, Baptist, Fundmantalist
and Christian Adult for 42 years.
I've been a Conservative, Baptist, and Fundmantalist
Christian for 55 years.

 

My wife and I attended several "Super Conferences" at Thomas Road Baptist Church in the late 70's. For the most part, we enjoyed the preaching very much.

I too was upset with Jerry when he took over for Jim Bakker - and that move cost him a lot of followers. I also learned that if you were on his mailing list, you would get lots of mail from his many organizations. I recently sent for a DVD on the Divinci Code - and I am now back on the mailing list.

Falwell did much for the Lord during his lifetime. I believe that he will have to answer to the Lord for some of the things he did, but so will Billy Graham, and so will I.

Remember, if you don't do anything for the Lord - no one (except the Lord) will notice, and you'll not have anyone throwing stones at you (except the Lord).

Let's let the man rest in peace - and be thankful for the many good things he accomplished for the Lord.

 

Amen, Brother Dan Todd -- Preach it!

 

Amen:thumbs:

 

I've been . . . for 43 years.

I really should start actively honoring Bro Ed Edwards (and Brother Bob) more.

Hoary head and what not. Forgive me if I ever disrespected you my dear elder brother.


In Christ, Lacy

 

You are forgiven.

I'm 63 years old.
In a couple more months I'll be 64.

I'm in the top dozen geezers around here.

(if OLD geezer isn't totally redundant,
I'm a young geezer! )

 

I was never a big fan of Jerry Falwell's during his life and have never been in his "orbit" (didn't attend his school, or his summer camp, or his conferences, etc.), but I think his legacy is mainly positive and certainly on historic consequence. Several random thoughts:

As a teen I used to see ads for Sword of the Lord conference and Soutwide Baptist Fellowship. Falwell often spoke at those conferences, though you'd have to consider that time the early and mid years of his ministry. In his later years he did not speak at those conferences for whatever reasons. As I think back on those conferences and the men who were there, I think that Falwell was a man of tremendous vision and I think that he was possibly the most personally gifted man of his generation. Most of the men who were at those conferences; men who were considered great at the time, will be lost to broader history because their ministries tended to fade in their later years (this did not happen to Falwell) or they became very narrow in their opinions and irrelevant (not a trait of Falwell).

I remember waking up on election day in 1980 and watching Good Morning America. The analyst/pollster who was being interviewed predicted that Ronald Reagan would win the election that day by a narrow popular vote and he attributed that narrow margin to the efforts of the Moral Majority. That pollsters "live" prognosis has stood the test of time in academia. Historians still give credit to the Moral Majority for that victory. What an accomplishment by Falwell! I believe in the sovereignty of God, but Jerry Falwell was certainly an instrument in God's hand to bring Reagan's victory about.

I often admired Falwell for going into the forums that he entered to speak up for Christian values. He appeared on many national shows such as Donahue and later was a guest several times on Politically Incorrect with Bill Mahr. Talk about going into the lion's den! Though he made some occasional gaffs which got much play in the media, he was a gracious though forthright guest on these shows.

Falwell had the personal ability to succeed in anything he endeavored. If he had gone into business, I really believe he would have become the richest man in the world. When the Moral Majority began, one prominent fundamentalist accused Falwell of being so ambitious that he would not stop until he became president of the US. I think that man really misunderstood Jerry Falwell. Falwell often said that to become president would be a step down for a pastor. He proved that he meant this because he remained a pastor and a pastor primarily to his last day.

Well done, Jerry!

 

Well written swaimj! Jerry's attitude caught me back in the 60's, his love of God and his love for the lost as well as the saved. In the 90's I saw his attitude had not changed. As many will tell you, he was fun to be around.

 

....and you know how the media/pop-culture complex are:
Dr. Falwell builds a school and a church....and he'll be remembered
as the guy that took a pot shot at Tinky Winkie from the Teletubbies.


What a sick world we live in.

 

In another universe, he could have sold used cars by the truckload.

 

As a used car salesman myself, I'm happy to be associated with him! :laugh:

 

I didn't mean it as an insult. I just meant, the man could probably sell ice cubes to an Eskimo.

Love,

Sopranette