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Jesus as opposed to Joseph

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by webdog, Jan 20, 2014.

  1. webdog

    webdog Active Member

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    I heard a pastor state to show Gods plan always included the Gentiles from the beginning, the Gentile name Jesus was chosen over the normal Jewish rendering, Joseph.

    Thoughts?
     
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    Dumb me, I've always thought Jesus was Greek for Joshua.
     
  3. JamesL

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    I believe this would be accurate, as God told Abraham that all the nations would be blessed in him. And if we think of a Gentile as anyone not from the nation of Israel, then we should conclude that Abraham himself was a Gentile, being before the nation of Israel was formed



    I Don't believe that the "choosing" of the name Jesus had anything to do with God's plan to deal with Gentiles all along. Jesus isn't the name used by the apostles anyway. It was:

    Iesous, similar to the way it's pronounced in Spanish - (almost) Hey-soos


    And I think His Jewish name would have been Joshua

    I've thought for a long time that if His name (and surname) were brought into English straight from Hebrew, that we would call Him:
    Joshua Davidson
     
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    I meant to say Joshua. I'm in Matthew in my devos and have Joseph on the brain for some reason.
     
  6. JamesL

    JamesL Well-Known Member

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    I fully understand, it happens. A couple of weeks ago, at our bible study on Prophecy and End Times, I got all messed up.

    I had Paul being killed by Titus, Jerusalem being destroyed by Nero,

    I had Ezra mixed up the Nehemiah, the city walls mixed up with the temple,

    Sometimes we're ingesting so much information that it creates havoc in our futile minds
     
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    You young folks!

    Wait until you get to be an old man!

    I couldn't remember the word "strawberries" today. :(
     
  8. JamesL

    JamesL Well-Known Member

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    You've got to warn me before you ambush me with a laugh attack like that.

    I don't think I've laughed that hard in two years. Now my stomach hurts.

    I think I needed that.
     
  9. Aaron

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    Hebrews 4:8, KJV

    Joshua, the successor of Moses, is called Jesus.
     
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    Strawberries? I got your strawberry for you. Pfffffffllllllsssssbbbbbblllllttttt!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  11. Aaron

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    Think that's a raspberry. :smilewinkgrin:
     
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    ...he's from West Virginia....
     
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    Same name

    In English, Joshua and Jesus seem different, but both originate as Hebrew names, and are the same name. Both mean "Jehovah is Salvation".

    They seem different in English only because Joshua was translated into English from the (ancient or Biblical) Hebrew Old Testament text, while Jesus was translated into English from the Greek New Testament text - and the name transliterated into Greek from Hebrew.

    And, at no added expense, the modern (more or less) Hebrew name is transliterated into modern English as Yeshua.

    As to the idea that "Jesus" was used in the Bible to presage inclusion of Gentiles; I've never heard it before. However, that fact (I've never heard it) is evidence of very little.
     
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    Oopsy..... :smilewinkgrin:
     
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    True that. But I was raised in Kentucky, and lived there my first 34 years of life... :tongue3:
     
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