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Jesus Christ and th first commandment.

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Dale-c, Apr 19, 2008.

  1. Dale-c

    Dale-c Active Member

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    This topic has been raised in other threads and since it is an important issue, I thought it was worth discussing.

    I am curious to know what people are actually meaning when they say that the first commandment does not apply to Christ.
     
  2. Pastor_Bob

    Pastor_Bob Well-Known Member

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    First, this issue is not worth discussing because no one has made an issue of it except those who are misrepresenting what someone stated. As far as I recall, no one said that the first commandment did not apply to Christ.

    Second, it simply means that it was not the person of Jesus Christ the Son who was speaking in Exodus 20:3, it was the person of God the Father. To read any more into it than that or to arrive at any other conclusion is erroneous.

    Next!
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  3. Diggin in da Word

    Diggin in da Word New Member

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    Amen, Pastor_Bob! And from what I read in Dale's Is This Fair thread, that point is exactly what sfiC said. I reckon you and I will be called Modalist's now.
     
  4. DHK

    DHK <b>Moderator</b>

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    What about you, Diggin? What are your views?
    "Thou shalt have no other gods before me."
    Was the command referring only to Jehovah?
    Did the command include Jesus Christ as well as Jehovah?
     
  5. ReformedBaptist

    ReformedBaptist Well-Known Member

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    How/why folks separate the Deity I do not know. All of the commandments as it respects the honor due to God the Father apply to Jesus, including the 1st commandment.

    Methinks some may want to justify their images of Christ.
     
  6. tinytim

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    God is one... in three persons...

    Of course it applies to Jesus.

    The misunderstanding is due to our lack of complete knowledge of the Trinity...

    WE have more knowledge concerning the Trinity than Moses did.

    Jesus is God.
    Therefore he should be worshipped as God.
    Anything else is Blasphemy.

    If a person doesn't believe that Jesus is God, that person is not saved.
    Hence the false doctrine of the Mormons.
     
  7. Jon-Marc

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    God is a TRIUNE God, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. They are not separate Gods or gods. The THREE are ONE. Jesus said, "I and my Father are one." and "If you have seen me, you have seen the Father." They cannot be separated and one made more important than the other. Nor is one supreme over the others. The three "Persons" of God simply have different functions, but they still remain as ONE God, ONE LORD.
     
  8. Diggin in da Word

    Diggin in da Word New Member

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    Who does LORD refer to if not God the Father? Who is David speaking about when he says "LORD" and "Lord" in Psalm 110:1? I have always been taught that "LORD" referred to the Father? If it is not, please explain why not.
     
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    This was the exact thing SFIC stated. It is no misrepresentation. Let's at least be accurate...
     
  10. webdog

    webdog Active Member
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    I've put this question to him at least three times and he won't answer. Me thinks he's afraid he will receive the same treatment from the admin or mod who banned SFIC.
     
  11. Amy.G

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    Yes, it does refer to God, but the question is: is the command for Christ as well? Is it a sin to put any gods before Christ?
     
  12. DHK

    DHK <b>Moderator</b>

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    I consider answering a simple question with a question dishonest and unethical.
    Why can't you just answer the question? I'll quote it for you again:
     
  13. Diggin in da Word

    Diggin in da Word New Member

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    From what I read in the threads, at least two of the moderators feel sfiC was banned injustly... there may be more than that that have not spoke up for some reason or another. We have an admin who has an itchy trigger finger who banned him because of supposed heresy that was never taught by sfiC. As Pastor_Bob stated, many are misrepresenting sfiC and his stance. I pray God brings those who accuse falsely to recant those false accusations.
     
  14. webdog

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    ...so why can't you answer the simple question?
     
  15. DHK

    DHK <b>Moderator</b>

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    If you are clear in your answers there should be no problem. When one is vague, that is where problems arise. For then people make assumptions about your doctrine, which may not be true.
    Secondly, if you look carefully under sfic's name you will note that the word "banned" is no longer there.
     
  16. webdog

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    Why is this? This is a slap in the face of those who served the minimum 10 days.
     
  17. Diggin in da Word

    Diggin in da Word New Member

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    Thank you DHK, I have called sfiC and let his wife know. Is she also reinstated?
     
  18. DHK

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    Yes, they both are.
    But I still would like to engage you in this conversation without fear or intimidation.
     
  19. Diggin in da Word

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    DHK, I believe just as sfiC stated. LORD was referring to God the Father. No, we are not to lift other gods before Christ, of course not.
     
  20. DHK

    DHK <b>Moderator</b>

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    Why do you believe that LORD in all caps refers to God the Father only?
     
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