Featured Jesus Christ On Unlimited Atonement

How is it sufficient for everyone but efficient only for the elect when Jesus stated He gave His life for the sheep and Ephesians 5:25 says He died for the church?

What benefit from His efficacious death do the non-elect get?

I ask to learn more about your statement.

 

All will have a resurrected body, all experience goodness and mercy while in this life!

 

You seem to be mixing up God's patience and mercy with Christ's atonement. They are different.

 

All have a resurrection, so that would be a blessing due to the Cross....

 

Please explain the above quote. I'd like a finer toothed presentation so I understand your perspective.

 

I 'agree' with both Brothers MennoSota's and TCassidy's perspective. I can see both perspectives. However, I tend to agree moreso with Brother MennoSota.

 

Here's Paul on the atonement:

Romans 5:6-10 refers to the lost, sinful, unbelieving human race.

Rom 5:6 For while we were still helpless, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly (the nonbeliever). 7 For one will hardly die for a righteous man; though perhaps for the good man someone would dare even to die. 8 But God demonstrates His own love (agape) toward us, in that while we were yet sinners , Christ died for us (i.e., the ungodly - sinners). 9 Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from the wrath of God through Him. 10 For if while we were enemies (again, ungodly) we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life.

Verse 11 refers to those who have "received" or accepted what God has already accomplished "in Christ"
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11 And not only this, but we also exult in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we (i.e., we believers) have now received the reconciliation.

 

That refers to those saved, not towards all sinners now!

 

You misunderstanding will quickly be corrected if you start at vs 1 and see who paul was speaking to;
5 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:

This is written to sinners who were now saved and regenerated, justified......the ungodly are not justified, they do not have saving faith.

 

This is something that is very familiar to those who have a knowledge of the KJV. "Marvel not that I say unto thee, ye must be born again." Bunyan, Whitefield, Spurgeon and a host of other five-point Calvinists were aware of it. It goes back to John 3:3. "Unless one [Gk. tis, 'one,' 'someone,' 'anyone'] is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.' So 'ye' in verse 7 refers not just to Nic and his friends, but to everyone. How many people get into the kingdom of God without being born anew? None!
But being born anew is not something we can do for ourselves. How much say did you have in your first birth? None at all. The time came for you to be born and you put in your appearance. You had nothing to do with your gender, your weight or anything else. So it is with the New Birth. It is all of God and none of us.

 

No, that's legalism....You are equating salvation to what Christ does in us....Faith isn't the Savior. Christ is the Savior. We accept what He has already done by faith. Our faith as an object and that is Christ....

 

I believe this is what Peter meant in 2 Peter 3:15:
And regard the patience of our Lord as salvation; just as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given him, wrote to you.

 

TCassidy seems to lump God's goodness, displayed to all of His creation, in with Christ's atonement for sin. I do not see this juxtaposition in scripture. God is patient with humanity until all the elect are brought into the Kingdom. This is not caused by Christ's work of atonement. The cause is God's patience with sinners. The effect is God’s atonement of his chosen ones.

 

God reconciled back to Himself ONLY the saved is truth, how is that legalism?
To be now reconciled back to God is to have Him forgive you and save you, correct?