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Jesus did not come to be the Messiah?

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by J.D., Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Bob Alkire

    Bob Alkire New Member

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    Isn't John Hagee pentecostal in his theology?
     
  2. Alex Quackenbush

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    Here is a link to the promotional video where Hagee makes the deliberately provocative statements without revealing the context of his comments (so you will purchase the book no doubt):

    The Threshing Floor

    I don't know anything about the website itself, but the video is here.
     
  3. Ed Franklin

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    Hagee a heretic?

    Here's a nice quote from “San Antonio fundamentalist battles anti-Semitism,” Houston Chronicle, April 30, 1988"--

    “In fact, trying to convert Jews is a ‘waste of time,’ [Hagee] said. ‘The Jewish person who has his roots in Judaism is not going to convert to Christianity. There is no form of Christian evangelism that has failed so miserably as evangelizing the Jewish people. They (already) have a faith structure.’ Everyone else, whether Buddhist or Baha’i, needs to believe in Jesus, he says. But not Jews. Jews already have a covenant with God that has never been replaced by Christianity, he says.”
     
  4. TCGreek

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    1. This is what I cannot fathom of Hagee and others: If they are so eschatologically driven, Does the partial hardening of Israel mean anything to them in Romans 11:25ff?

    2. Are they trying to expedite the MK?
     
  5. tinytim

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    I sent an email to JH ministries asking them if this is really him...and if this is what he believes....

    I want to know for sure before I condemn him...
     
  6. J.D.

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    Isn't this quote just an honest summary of dispensational theology?
     
  7. TCGreek

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    Ed, good one. :laugh:
     
  8. Ed Franklin

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    I'd say it's just as honest as the summaries of calvinism which depict it as anti-missions, anti-evangelism, etc.
     
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    Anything, Tim?
     
  10. J.D.

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    I don't think I went to a strawman on that. Think about it - did you see the thread on replacement theology? DHK fiercely attacked anyone that seemed to agree with the idea of the jews being replaced. So if it's not replacement, what is it? Dispensationalism teaches that the millenium is a golden age of ISRAEL, not the CHURCH. They will retain the OT economy. So Hagee is right, the mosaic covenant has not been been done away with. Where am I wrong on this?
     
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