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Job 41 & 39 Dinosaurs

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by TaliOrlando, Sep 7, 2007.

  1. standingfirminChrist

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    God created the earth and all therein in 6 days. I bet that was against the laws of biology too.

    The animal was recorded. It was recorded five times in four verses in the KJV.
     
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    What’s a “neesings”? :laugh:
    So if the fire's real, are the lamps flying from his mouth real too?
    Ya think there might be some poetic license used here???!!!

    Rob
     
  3. standingfirminChrist

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    The word "neesings" is a word meaning "sneezing".
     
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    Bombardier beetle seems like a binary weapon to me.

    in Christ,

    Bob
     
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    This is a Baptist site, I don't believe betting is tolerated. Either way, I am not a partaker of bets myself.....

    God created the laws of biology.

    'An' animal was described, you just happen to believe it was a dragon, I happen to believe it was a crocodile. If the animal described was not in existence in Job's time and at the time Job was written, as well as in the present day, it does not serve the purpose to strike awe in the the hearts of men.

    To look for a mythological dragon in the Bible, one is turning from truth to mythology.


    BGTF
     
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    Until the mid 1800's the discussion of Job 40, centered around whether the behemoth was an elephant or a hippopotamus. Likewise the discussion of Job 41 was about whether the leviathan was a whale or a crocodile. Thanks to Mr. Darwin, it is only in the last century and a half that people have even considered anything else.

    My conclusion is that whether they be dinosaurs or dragons or whatever, there is MUCH more reason to doubt the new suppositions than there is to believe them.


    BGTF
     
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    Quite right, these fossils (all the fossils, in fact) come from animals killed in the Flood. But if you want to believe that dinosaurs never existed, then you are left with saying that the fossils (which Answers in Genesis and the Institute for Creation Research agree came from reptilian land-animals) instead came from some other now-extinct reptilian land-animal. Which is really saying the same thing.

    The fact that certain "scientific" procedures have been used to "date" these fossils, producing absurd and untestable results which happen to conflict with Scripture, means that one should reject these unscientific dating methods. Not the existence of the creatures whose fossils they are trying to date.

    Whether or not behemoth is a dinosaur (though it is :) ), one cannot argue from silence: There is no Scriptural evidence for the existence of my computer. Are computers the product of a vast conspiracy theory?
     
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    Now we know...Leviathin is Tiny Tim :laugh:
     
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    I am flabbergasted that I am watching someone who believes in fire-breathing dragons arguing with someone who doesn't believe in dinosaurs! I have no dog in that fight, but it is amusing to watch. And of course, both believe they are biblically correct and the other wrong. :laugh:

    Let me know when you get to trolls and leprechauns. I can't wait.
     
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  10. ByGracethroughFaith

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    Thank you for flying with us, we are glad to have been part of meeting your entertainment needs. If we can be of further service, do let us know.


    BGTF
     
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    I think technically, I would be more like the behemoth!
     
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    Who is to say that the salinity of the ocean is the same or about the same as it was "in the beginning"? We have no real way to know the salinity content of the ocean before the flood. Also, how do we know that at one time most or all of the fresh water fish could not tolerate salinity to some extent? Just because some cannot now does not mean they were always that way. They could have lost this ability over time (which, by the way, would not be "molecules to man" evolution as this would be the losing of a trait)
     
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    The leprechaun is Vince McMahon's son. :laugh:
     
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    Could be Godzilla.
     
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    umm....wow.

    you're saying "no" to quite a bit of empirical evidence there...
     
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    Since the Word of God declares the leviathan to be a dragon (Isaiah 27:1, and since the Word of God says leviathan breathes fire, I believe the leviathian to be a fire breathing dragon as the Word of God declares. The fire breathing Leviathan is not a mythological creature.
     
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    I am just curious, BGTF,

    Since you believe the fire breathing dragon from Job to be mythology, do you believe the horses with the stings of scorpions in their tails from Revelation to be mythology as well?
     
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    SFIC

    I respect your position on this matter, and see no reason to further 'entertain the masses' on this topic.

    You are free to believe leviathan is a literal fire breathing dragon, and I am free not to.

    In answer to your other question, I believe the horses with scorpions in their tails to be symbolic of something other than a literal animal.

    Having finite understanding, I could be wrong on both accounts, but like I said, 'Here I stand...'


    BGTF
     
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    Since the Word of God declares the leviathan to be a real fire breathing dragon, would I not be teaching or preaching a lie to claim otherwise?

    Since the horses in whose tails is the sting of scorpions are not said to be symbolic, would I not be teaching or preaching a lie to claim they are symbolic?

    I must preach what the Word of God declares believing that the Word of God is true.
     
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    If God's word says "like" or "as" I take it thusly; without any qualifiers (ie: "the parable of--"), I'll take the Word as literal as yesterday's sunset! To do otherwise is, in IMNSHO, telling God that we know better what He said/meant than He does.

    I'm with you SFIC, 100 % on this one!!!
     
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