1. Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to all the features that our community has to offer.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

John Ankerberg show

Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by A&I, May 2, 2004.

  1. gb93433

    gb93433 Active Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2003
    Messages:
    15,549
    Likes Received:
    15
    The MV scholars gave those KJV men a lot of grace. I know some of those men and they are much more knowledgeable than what they pressed the KJVO men on.

    One of the KJVO men started off by saying that it was all by faith. The MV scholars had proof for their faith. The KJVO”s had none other than to s ay it was by faith.

    Every piece of evidence the KJVO’s presented was shown to be false. One of the men stated that the KJV was literal equivalence. The MV scholars pointed out how that was not always true and not even possible to always be literal. The KJVO’s sounded like they were so ingrown within their own organization that they read each other’s books and were convinced they were the truth. The along comes someone who looks outside of the box and tells them they are wrong.
     
  2. HankD

    HankD Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    May 14, 2001
    Messages:
    26,977
    Likes Received:
    2,536
    Faith:
    Baptist
    In the final analysis IMO the version debate is resolved by each believer by faith because we don't have the originals.

    IMO MV users ought not to be defensive or embarrassed about the element of faith in the choice of modern versions.

    Don't let the KJVO get away with implying their faith is superior because they have the "pure words" of God.

    Or, in the words of Paul the apostle "God forbid".

    HankD
     
  3. robycop3

    robycop3 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2000
    Messages:
    14,362
    Likes Received:
    668
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Askjo:The reason that I said "unfair" is that Strouse had 5 minutes to answer because they interrupted him many times.

    Most people can say a lot in 5 minutes, and, having listened to the tapes, he DID say a lot. You will note that Dr. Bob has said Dr. Strouse has left the Riplinger-KJVO camp.
     
  4. skanwmatos

    skanwmatos New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2003
    Messages:
    1,314
    Likes Received:
    0
    Tom Strouse has never been in the Ripplinger/KJVO camp. He is and always has been a defender of the KJV and an attacker of modern versions. But he will be the first to tell you that he believes the original languages are valuable for a deeper understanding of the English text, and that minor changes in the text of the KJV have occurred and those changes are for the better. Dr. Strouse is more correctly identified a TR only man.
     
  5. gb93433

    gb93433 Active Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2003
    Messages:
    15,549
    Likes Received:
    15
    I know this may sound like a small point but I believe it is a big point. Isn't our faith to be in Jesus and not anything or anyone else?

    If that is the case we must not put our faith in a translation or even in the Bible but in Jesus. If I put my faith only in the Bible then I have stopped short of what God has called me to do--be obedient. Many in the early church did not have a Bible and couild not read but could please God.
     
  6. Trotter

    Trotter <img src =/6412.jpg>

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2003
    Messages:
    4,818
    Likes Received:
    1
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Amen, gb! Amen!
     
  7. HankD

    HankD Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    May 14, 2001
    Messages:
    26,977
    Likes Received:
    2,536
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Of course, but my faith in God affects every aspect of my life including the version(s) of the Bible I use, the websites I visit, the radio stations I listen to, the amount of money I give back to the Lord, etc, etc, etc...

    "The just shall live by faith".

    Hebrews 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

    HankD
     
  8. Askjo

    Askjo New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2003
    Messages:
    3,736
    Likes Received:
    0
    I know Dr. Strouse and met him many times. Dr. Strouse has 15 children. WOW!!!
     
  9. robycop3

    robycop3 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2000
    Messages:
    14,362
    Likes Received:
    668
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Askjo:I know Dr. Strouse and met him many times. Dr. Strouse has 15 children. WOW!!!

    Nowadays, that's NOT the most intelligent thing one can do. Wonder whatever "possessed" him & Mrs. Strouse to try to start their own nation?


    I've been busy enuff raising TWO sons. After #2, we both had "snip jobs". We had Meenie & Mienie, but we didn't want no "MO"! No matter how much MONEY one has, there's only so much ATTENTION available.
     
  10. Dr. Bob

    Dr. Bob Administrator
    Administrator

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2000
    Messages:
    30,285
    Likes Received:
    507
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Opinions vary. We all have our thoughts on the perfect size of a family. God opens the womb.

    Would not take Doc to task for size of family. Fuss over his doctrine, not his progeny.
     
  11. mioque

    mioque New Member

    Joined:
    May 23, 2003
    Messages:
    3,899
    Likes Received:
    0
    Askjo
    What does the fact that Strouse ought to change his last name to "Potent Loins" have to do with his hairbrained theological schemes?
     
Loading...