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John Boehner--Again!

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by InTheLight, Feb 20, 2013.

  1. InTheLight

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    John Boehner has an op-ed piece in the Wall Street Journal today

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323495104578314240032274944.html

    where he calls on President Obama to name the spending cuts he would enact to avoid the sequestration cuts. Does anybody really expect Obama to name spending cuts? Especially since Boehner is calling the sequester cuts "Obama's Sequester" and that it was Obama's idea for the sequester cuts?

    Well, if that is so Mr. Boehner, the sequester cuts MUST be the cuts Obama prefers. So Obama has already made his choices, numbskull. He's just going around the country with speeches and photo-ops because he knows he can outdo you in public relations and campaigning.

    We all know that these automatic cuts will affect the military and defense industries more than any others (entitlement programs are mostly unaffected). Isn't that what Obama wants? And isn't that what Republicans don't want--defense cuts?

    Know this--once the defense cuts are happening it will be difficult to restore them. I think Boehner is playing a fools game of chicken with these defense cuts.
     
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    I support a serious, wide-spread draw down of our troops abroad. But I don't support taking R&D monies spent on new weapons and using them to prop up our entitlement culture.

    I don't know if money spent on deployment counts as military spending. Seems like it should. It seems team zero wants to cut weapons, but not deployment.
     
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    Boehner was right on in the article.
     
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    No one is playing chicken. On one side stands one world view, on the other side stands another and completely opposite world view. Obama wants to get exactly what he wants and is not willing to give on anything. Republicans are not willing give on some issues that are most important to them. There is no middle ground to come to so now Obama has resorted to this.

    Trying to make it anything other than that is just out of ignorance or intentionally misleading.
     
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    Where is Poncho - we need him!!! :smilewinkgrin:
     
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    When it comes to lying Obama makes Clinton and most politicians look like novices! Obama wants a third world Socialist state and is well on his way to achieving that objective. My own personal opinion is that he is guilty of "high crimes and misdemeanors" in his efforts to destroy the Republic.

    Meanwhile: If Republicans in Congress were smart, which they are not, they would endorse the Simpson Bowles plan and move forward from there, perhaps even thwarting Obama in his evil scheme!
     
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    ITL, let's make sure we understand the game that both sides are playing. Sometime back, Obama actually proposed these cuts, in order to have the repubs agree with his administration's proposals. Now Mr. Obama has backed off, saying that the cuts are too deep and too painful--but he hasn't proposed any alternatives.

    What the repubs are either ignoring, or are too stupid to realize, is that Obama never wanted any spending cuts. And now, because Obama and his people are better marketing/media manipulators than the repubs are, the repubs are going to be blamed for major cuts in the defense of our country...and there's nothing they can do about it, simply because the dems are better at getting their message out.

    Regarding one of the questions above: yes, deployments are counted as part of defense spending.

    And regarding another question above, I have to echo my concern: WHERE'S PONCHO?
     
  8. InTheLight

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    I agree with what you're saying, although Obama does want cuts--in defense spending. This is his way of getting it AND putting the blame on the Republicans.

    Yes Republicans are stupid and yes Obama and the Dems are running circles around them in the public relations battles. It's time for the Reps to do something drastic. I would suggest daily press conferences with the threat that they will walk out of the House and Senate chambers on February 28th as a united group unless Obama details his specific spending cuts of $X.XX amount. Reps can say if he doesn't submit detailed cuts that means he wants the automatic cuts. Since that was his original plan, then they should go with it. That would certainly get press coverage, create a deadline for action, and it would certainly put Obama in a corner.

    [P.S. I think Poncho is busy filling shotgun shells.]
     
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