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Judgement Seat of Christ

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  1. Walls

    Walls New Member

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    Does anyone know exactly what we will be judged for at the judgement seat of Christ?
     
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    Because past sins have already been forgiven, I think we will be judged for the deeds not done. Our works.
     
  3. donnA

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    It is not a guilt or innocence judgement. We have Jesus. It is a judgement of our works, whether they were done purely for God, or for self gain, or selfish reasons. You could say wheterh or not they are done for the right reasons. Our reward in heaven will only be for those done unslefishly, truly for God. The others are nothing more then what we inteded to be good works, and weren't, as filthy rags to be cast away.
     
  4. Walls

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    What would you consider our works to be? How many we win to the Lord for example or are you meaning something else?
     
  5. Gunther

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    You are judged for how well you ran the race of faith. That would include replacing the worthless fruits of darkness with the fruits of righteousness.
     
  6. Trotter

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    My personal belief is that we will have to replay our lives before the Lord, with every word and thought exposed. We will be rewarded for the works that we did for Him, and we will see the rewards that we did not receive for whatever reason (inaction, moving ahead of the Spirit, selfish conceit, etc.). I believe that there will be tears before the judgement seat, but Jesus will be there to cover each offense.

    In Christ,
    Trotter
     
  7. npetreley

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    I sure hope it's not penmanship.
     
  8. showard93

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    I think when you are saved your sins are washed away by the blood and you kind of start all over. So I think we will be judged with everything good or bad after we were saved. I mean our everday life deeds, thoughts, actions etc...
     
  9. qwerty

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    1CO 3:10 By the grace God has given me, I laid a foundation as an expert builder, and someone else is building on it. But each one should be careful how he builds. 11 For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 If any man builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw, 13 his work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each man's work. 14 If what he has built survives, he will receive his reward. 15 If it is burned up, he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames.


    2CO 5:9 So we make it our goal to please him, whether we are at home in the body or away from it. 10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.
     
  10. Dr. Bob

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    If I am judged for ONE THING (anything, you choose), then the atonement of Christ taking away all of the guilt/sin was incomplete.

    Which, of course, is heresy.

    The Bema Seat is a REWARD seat, not a JUDGMENT seat.

    If I don't get a particular reward, I will be saddened . . but not "judged".
     
  11. Barry2

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    Hello,

    All the answers I've heard so far is just folks repeaing what they heard from a pulpit. Where in ther Bible does anybody even come close to saying that the judgement seat of Christ is a judgement for works-rewards only because you are already saved? The judgement seat of Christ is the same as the Great White Throne Judgement and the same as the Matthew 25 Judgement. It's one judgement not many. I understand that make your theology work out( Carnal Christian theory) and fit you have to say the Judgement of Christ is only for Christians, but isn't Christ God? It's not a seperate judgment. Stop taking everything you hear from a pulpit as fact and be like the bereans from Acts. Judgment for works-rewards? Nonsense, the Bible SAYS nothing of the kind!

    Barry2
     
  12. DeafPosttrib

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    How about Matt 25:14-30????

    Jesus shall tell to the lazy SERVANT, go to 'outer darkness' - hell.

    Judgement seat of Christ is not just for our works only, also, judge our fruit and sins too!!!

    In Christ
    Rev. 22:20 - Amen!

    p.s. I will continue discuss on osas too.
     
  13. Gunther

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    Judgment in this passage unintentionally implies a negative result. If Paul intended such, he would have used the word "kreno". Instead, Paul said "bema". It is a reward kind of judgment. When I said that it is based on how well we run, our reward will be our enjoyment of the riches of Christ.

    Unbelievers are not rewarded with anything. They are paid death because that is what wages demand.
     
  14. DeafPosttrib

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    Later, I will show you verses to prove there is only ONE judgement day in the Bible.

    Pretrib teaches there are three different judgement days in the Bible.

    But, the Bible does not saying it.

    I will show verses to you about it later, not today, wait till next Monday.

    In Christ
    Rev. 22:20 - Amen!
     
  15. Walls

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    What is Bema, never heard of that? Is it in the Bible or a manmade term?
     
  16. Gunther

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    The Bible does not explicitly say when the Judgment seat of Christ takes place. Most assume that it takes place shortly after the rapture. It might or it might not.

    There are at the very least two judgment times.

    One is when the Lord returns to earth (Matt. 25).

    The other is the Great White judgment (Rev. 20).

    All premillenial views agree with the above.

    Only amill, postmill, and :rolleyes: preterism, (all of which are horrible representations of truth) disagree.
     
  17. Trotter

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    Amen, Gunther! [​IMG]

    In Christ,
    Trotter
     
  18. Ed Edwards

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    Five Judgements

    The Lord God is a judging God.

    "To judge" can mean three things in the Holy Bible:

    A. to discern between good and evil (human function)
    B. to condemn, usually falsely (human function)
    C. to reward the just & punish the evil (Godly function)

    The Five Judgements:

    1. Believers for SIN on the Cross
    WHO: All who will Believe
    WHEN: 33AD
    WHERE: Jerusalem
    WHY: The Lord God is a merciful God.
    HOW: The Grace of God through Messiah Jesus
    WHAT: found innocent by the Bood of Jesus

    How to get from judgement 1 to judgement 2
    (and avoid judgements 3, 4, or 5):

    Romans 10:9 (KJV): "That if thou
    shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt
    believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from
    the dead, thou shalt be saved.
    "

    2. Judgement Seat of Christ
    WHO: Believers for works
    WHEN: during the Great Tribulation on earth;
    Right after the Rapture/Resurrection that starts
    the Tribulation
    WHERE: Heaven
    WHY: to assign rewards to the redeemed for their good works
    HOW: The Grace of God through Messiah Jesus
    WHAT: found innocent by the Bood of Jesus


    3. Judgement of Yisrael under Antichrist
    (Ezekiel 22:17-22 Time of Jacob's Trouble; Ezekiel 20:34-38;
    Jeremiah 30:1-24; Revelation 6-19)
    WHO: Yisrael
    WHEN: during the Tribulation
    WHERE: earth
    WHY: The Lord God fulfills His promises
    HOW: The wrath of God by Messiah Jesus
    WHAT: Great Tribulation

    4. Throne of His Glory judgement
    WHO: the nations: the living survivers of the Great Tribulation
    WHEN: after the Great Tribulation, before the Millennial Age
    WHERE: Jerusalem
    WHY: The Lord God fulfills His promises: God will bless those
    who bless Yisrael and curse those who curse Yisrael
    HOW: Judged by their treatment of Yisrael
    WHAT: the cursed to Hell; the blessed to the Millennial Age

    5. Great White Throne judgement
    WHO: the wicked dead
    WHEN: after the Millennial Age; before endless ages
    WHERE: between Hell and the Lake of Fire
    WHY: The Lord God is not mocked
    HOW: The wrath of God by Messiah Jesus
    WHAT: the Messiah rejectors consigned to endless punishment

    NOTE: The delineation of the five revealed
    judgements above does not preclude other specific
    or general judgements. One place on the net i found
    a chart where TWENTY-FOUR judgements were delineated.
    The Lord God is a judging God and His hand is not shortened
    by His revelation to us nor
    by our understaning of His revelation to us.

    May Jesus our Savior and our Lord be Praised!

    --compilation by ed,
    incurable Jesus Phreaque

    [​IMG]
     
  19. Dr. Bob

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    Good Question!

    Bema is the Greek word that is poorly translated as 'judgment' in the AV. It was a part of the central square in Corinth - I have actually stood on the bema - and is a ledge or bench sticking out from a raise platform on which the judges of the races and activities were seated.

    The analogy of Paul is that we will all stand there like an athlete, where we will receive the vitor's garland or bow uncrowned heads. (II Cor 5:10)

    Rather than perpetuate the concept of JUDGMENT (and punishment) many of us prefer to call it the Bema which is, of course, its real name and not implying bad theology!! :cool:
     
  20. Walls

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    Intesting Dr. Bob, never knew that. Thanks for the explanation.
     
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