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Discussion in 'Music Ministry' started by ktn4eg, Oct 6, 2012.

  1. ktn4eg

    ktn4eg New Member

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    ........Anyone out there in BB land knows of any really good hymns and or "praise/worship" songs that praise God for His Limited Atonement (The "L" in the proverbial TUlIP"?

    I'm especially interested in any children's songs/choruses that praise our sovereign God for His Limited Atonement.

    Thanking you in advance for any help that my BB friends can offer regarding this.:godisgood::jesus:
     
  2. mont974x4

    mont974x4 New Member

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    Got a song about Noah and the ark? God elected who would be saved and only those were drawn into the boat.
     
  3. Jerome

    Jerome Well-Known Member

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    Gadsby's Hymns is just chock full of that type of thing.

    #78

    Fixed was the eternal state of man,
    Ere time its rapid course began;
    Appointed, by God’s firm decree,
    To endless joy or misery.

    Fixed was the vast eternal deep
    Between the goats and chosen sheep;
    Nor can a union e’er take place
    ’Twixt heirs of wrath and heirs of grace.

    Yet erring men make much ado,
    And strive to force a passage through;
    But, ah! what vain attempt is this,
    To strive to ford that deep abyss!

    All glory to the great I AM,
    Who chose me in the blessed Lamb;
    Whilst millions of the human race
    Will never know or taste his grace;

    And blessings on atoning blood,
    By which I’m reconciled to God;
    And praise be to the Spirit given,
    Who frees from sin and leads to heaven.
     
  4. Gina B

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    They aren't children's songs. Why not write some and put them to music? It should be relatively simple to write them and put them to a popular tune.

    Here are a few big people ones in the meantime.

    Here is one song that appears to have been written by Calvin himself.
    http://songsandhymns.org/hymns/lyrics/i-greet-thee-who-my-sure-redeemer-art

    This one by Augustus Toplady directly references limited atonement in the second stanza. I can't find anywhere online where you can actually listen to it, but a clip of the music is on this link, along with the lyrics and the sheet music so whoever plays music in your church should have an easy time of it: http://musescore.com/user/23708/scores/40313

    There's a song by Newton called "In Evil Long I Took Delight" that was written with the view in mind, but it probably is more in the eyes of the person singing/hearing it as to the interpretation. Here's the notes and lyrics, but fair warning...eat a few carrots before you try to look and read it. :laugh:
    http://historichymnals.com/book0006/page228_full.png
     
  5. Jerome

    Jerome Well-Known Member

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    How about To God Be the Glory?

    To God be the glory, great things He hath done;
    So loved He the world that He gave us His Son,
    Who yielded His life an atonement for sin,
    And opened the lifegate that all may go in.
     
  6. ktn4eg

    ktn4eg New Member

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    Nice hymn, but where specifically, does this hymn praise God for HIS LIMITED ATONEMENT? (Just asking, BTW!)
     
  7. Jerome

    Jerome Well-Known Member

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    Mrs. Mark Dever recommends that song for the Atonement unit of her "Praise Factory" juvenile theology curriculum out of Capitol Hill Baptist Church:

    http://www.praisefactory.org/component/content/article/23/178-ssaw-downloads

     
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    Revmitchell Well-Known Member

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    Sure..:rolleyes: that is why God had him preach the gospel for 120 years.
     
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  10. Jerome

    Jerome Well-Known Member

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    You also might try contacting the 'Calvinist Cadet Corps' or the 'Calvinettes' (the Reformed youth auxiliaries) for songbooks.

    I see their CCC anthem is "Living for Jesus", which mentions the atonement:thumbs:

    It's the one that goes "Living for Jesus a life that is true. . .

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4WlJneDWv0
     
  11. ktn4eg

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    Notice the portions of this (otherwise) wonderful hymn that I've emphasized.

    I've sung it many times (to myself, thus sparing the ears/stomach/nerves of those sitting/standing near me!:applause: ), yet (to me at least) this hymn nowhere even makes an attempt to clarify/define what is actually meant by the expressions I've emphasized.

    Yes, I know, to some this may appear as an attempt to "make a mountain out of a mole hill," but I contend that more "theology" is acquired/retained by the average Christian in our pews by the songs that "we" play and sing than by the vast majority of what the preacher(s) proclaim from behind the so-called "sacred desk."

    While I cannot produce any proven, scientifically-verifiable, statistically accurate documentation to support this "notion," I do believe that I am fairly "safe" in stating that more "average 'pew-sitters'" will remember the songs played and/or sung during a corporate worship service than they will the sub-, sub-point(s) of the fourth in a six-month-long series on exegeting the current eschatological controversies regarding the "Day of the Lord" as set forth in a comparison and/or contrast of Old and/or New Testament prophetical passages. (Did I just post what I thunk I done did post???? :tonofbricks: )

    Bottom line (to me anyway :wavey: ) is this: Either Jesus's atonement is LIMITED or it is NOT!
     
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    I'm with you, brother. The songs we choose must reflect and reenforce sound biblical doctrine.
     
  13. ktn4eg

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    Oh, you mean like, "There's a NEW NAME Written Down in Glory"??!!??

    How's that like good old super-ultra-ultra-hyper Calvinist "traditional ('therefore, of necessity, much, much more Biblical than that un-godly, satan-inspired "trash" that was written in the 1980's - on') hymn" music, right??!!?? :wavey: :tonofbricks:
     
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    Why don't you tell us how you really feel!!
     
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    Originally Posted by Jerome
    How about To God Be the Glory?

    To God be the glory, great things He hath done;
    So loved He the world that He gave us His Son,
    Who yielded His life an atonement for sin,
    And opened the lifegate that all may go in.


    >Nice hymn, but where specifically, does this hymn praise God for HIS LIMITED ATONEMENT? (Just asking, BTW!)

    Not limited enough for the editors of the CRC Gray Psalter who changed the words to "so WE may go in."
     
  16. ktn4eg

    ktn4eg New Member

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    I would, but I've been told, time after time that one should ABSOLUTELY NEVER EVER GO BY ONE'S FEELINGS (NO EXCEPTIONS WHATSOEVER AND/OR ABSOLUTELY UNDER ANY/ALL CIRCUMSTANCES THAT ONE COULD EVEN POSSIBLY CONCIEVE OF FROM DAY ONE UP UNTIL THE INFINITE END OF "ETERNITY FUTURE"!!!!!!) go by one's "feelings"; therefore I cannot "tell you I really feel"!!!!!!! :smilewinkgrin::tongue3::thumbsup:
     
  17. ktn4eg

    ktn4eg New Member

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    Since you have seen fit to ignore my many requests that I have made to you (billwald) to supply the BB readers with any very clear and/or specific NT reference(s) (i.e., book, chapter, and verse found in any of the HS-inspired (and therefore completely and totally infallible and inerrant) 27 books beginning with the Gospel of Matthew on through [and including] Revelation) that provide any/all of its/their readers with a clear-cut, no-doubt-about-it-whatsoever, right-there-in-black-and-white evidence that the accepted norm with regard to the very important aspect of the proper mode of the very important NT ordinance of baptism was anything other than immersion, I am merely "returning the favor" and am ignoring your (billwald's) request that I comment on any more of your (billwald's) posts.

    Fair enough for you, billwald??!!??
     
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