Featured Justified while Ungodly !

Until its applied effectually by God towards the elect, and TAHT happens at moment of their faith in christ, they are sinners under wrath of God!

election does NOT save anyone, nor does Jesus death on their behalf UNTIL faith gets access to that grace, when God applies it and changes us from sinner to saint!

 

Then they never needed to be "saved" or "redeemed" or "conformed" or "regenerated" or "justified by faith" as those things are only for those CONDEMNED UNDER LAW. Go figure!

 

If they were never charged with sins then they never needed a Savior or a redeemer or need to be JUSTIFIED as the term JUSTIFIED is a LEGAL term used in court for only those who have been CHARGED with crime, guilt, sin! Go figure!

If they were never charged then neither would Christ need to be Charged or condemned as he acted IN THEIR PLACE and if they were never charged or condemned then Christ MISREPRESENTED THEM if he were charged and condemned IN THEIR PLACE! Go figure!

 

The cross did not occur in eternity past but in time. He took their place IN TIME. He became their substitute IN TIME. He did not actually literally die, redeem, justify, sanctify, glorify them before the world began becuase they never actually and literally existed but IN TIME. "What I HAVE purposed; I WILL DO it.?

The term "justify" is a LEGAL term used in court to describe the action taken toward those formerly CHARGED with crime! Those never charged legally never need to be justified in eternity or in time. Go figure!

 

By Covenant Purpose ONLY not by Covenant fulfillment or covenant actions

"What I have purposed, I WILL DO it."

However, you would have God say "What I HAVE purposed; I HAVE ALREADY FUFILLED and don't need to do it." Go figure!

 

That is a deliberate misquote. Why?

Romans 5:10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Throughout this passage Paul uses the pronoun "we."

Why did you use "they"? Are you not part of the "we"?

Perhaps Romans 5:8 holds the key:
Romans 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
He demonstrated his toward US.
While WE were yet sinners.

The first person plural pronouns such as we and us refer to a great multitude, in fact, they refer to the world, not just the elect. Christ demonstrated his love to the world. Christ died for the world. This is truth too great for you to fathom, isn't it?

 

A Covenant is an agreement TO DO something - that is the nature of the real transaction. That something was not already done or no covenant would be necessary. The covenant work of Christ was to be done IN THE FUTURE. The Covenant work of the Spirit was to be done IN THE FUTURE. No covenant would have been necessariy if the work had already been finished before the world began as you believe. Hence, "What I have purposed, I WILL DO it."

Your position is as nonsensical as stating a prophesy when given is already fulfilled in reality and in actuality!!!! If that were the case it could not be called a "prophesy" as the term prophesy in that kind of context refers to something predicted but not yet fulfilled.

Again, YOU make God a LIAR as you would make his words mean "What I HAVE PURPOSED; I HAVE ALREADY FINISHED" but that is not true of His eternal purpose and that is making God a liar when he says "I WILL do it."

 

No, you don't or would go on to say such nonsense as:

If you did understand what a covenant was you would have said, "Christ COMMITTED/OBLIGATED himself to be the surety of the Covenant before the world began but only fulfilled that covenant OBLIGATION when he came to earth and went to the cross and rose again!

You don't understand God's covenant, God's purpose or the fulfillment of that purpose in time and space as you confuse the covenant obligation with its fulfillment and then confuse the fulfillment of Christ's obligation with the fulfillment of the Holy Spirit's covenant obligation.

You have no idea what you are talking about and simply spouting out pure ignorance and deceiving yourself and others.

"What I HAVE purposed, I WILL DO it" - Isa. 46;11 - GO LEARN WHAT THIS MEANS AND THEN COME BACK AND DISCUSS THE ISSUES.

 

Here is our little "parrot" friend who cannot refute the evidence his interpretation is wrong and so he simply "repeats" his errors.