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Kennedy & Gestapo

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by MrJim, Jun 30, 2007.

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  1. MrJim

    MrJim New Member

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    From NY Times article:

    But Senator Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts, the chief Democratic architect of the bill, said that many senators had “voted their fears, not their hopes.”

    Referring to opponents of the bill, Mr. Kennedy said: “We know what they don’t like. What are they for? What are they going to do with the 12 million who are undocumented here? Send them back to countries around the world? Develop a type of Gestapo here to seek out these people that are in the shadows? What’s their alternative?”

    We wouldn't have to call it the Gestapo, but I why does this idea appeal to me? Is it because the gov't should be doing something like this anyhow?

    You hear all the time "You can't deport 12 million people"...OK maybe not in one day, but after the border is sealed-why not?
     
    #1 MrJim, Jun 30, 2007
  2. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    We don't have to deport them. Just go after their employers and stop giving illegal aliens access to taxpayer-funded services. If we do those two things we won't even need a wall. They'll leave and won't come back.
     
    #2 KenH, Jun 30, 2007
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    just-want-peace Well-Known Member
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    After they've tasted the freebies here?

    Don't think so; not very many of them anyway.
     
    #3 just-want-peace, Jun 30, 2007
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    It doesnt bother me that they are here. Just deny any free benefit (with the execption of emergancy life saving medical), in addition, birth in this country would not make you an automatic citizen.

    If there are no benefits...
     
    #4 Salty, Jun 30, 2007
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    "Without a new immigration law, Mr. Kennedy said, “The situation is going to get worse and worse and worse.”

    Kennedy is right.

    But he still fails to see that it is his and the Senate's responsibility to come up with a bill the people of America will support.
     
    #5 carpro, Jun 30, 2007
  6. KenH

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    Then take away the freebies.
     
    #6 KenH, Jun 30, 2007
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    KenH Well-Known Member

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    Senator Kennedy is wrong. We have sufficient laws on the books. They just need to be enforced.
     
    #7 KenH, Jun 30, 2007
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    Point taken.:thumbs:
     
    #8 carpro, Jun 30, 2007
  9. Baptist in Richmond

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    .....and it ain't gonna happen, KenH.
    Ask yourself: exactly who benefits from all of these immigrant workers?

    Regards,
    BiR (just got back from Little Rock, AR - didn't make it to El Dorado on this trip - ran out of time)
     
    #9 Baptist in Richmond, Jun 30, 2007
  10. hillclimber1

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    Well finally I agree with you in principal. But after we cut off jobs and services, they'll revolt, and that will be a mess.
     
    #10 hillclimber1, Jun 30, 2007
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    I don't know about that. There's the matter of private citizens hiring these guys out as painters, movers, handymen, electricians, plumbers, general help.

    Taxpayer-funded services, yes, I think.
     
    #11 pinoybaptist, Jun 30, 2007
  12. MrJim

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    Oh please revolt-let them do some really stupid stuff in the streets...give the angry american populace something to squash:laugh:
     
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  13. MrJim

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    ANYHOW, back to the original question-what do you think about a law enforcement dept solely focused on hunting illegals of all nationalities?
     
    #13 MrJim, Jun 30, 2007
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    Which is illegal for them to do. That's why the government needs to enforce the law concerning employers.
     
    #14 KenH, Jun 30, 2007
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    Business. That is why my libertarian friend who hosts the local talk radio show says that the recent immigration bill was really more of an amnesty bill for business than it was for illegal aliens.
     
    #15 KenH, Jun 30, 2007
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    That's why this will be forced through Congress. You haven't seen the last of this.

    Regards,
    BiR
     
    #16 Baptist in Richmond, Jul 6, 2007
  17. KenH

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    Maybe so, but I don't think that it will be prior to January 20, 2009.
     
    #17 KenH, Jul 6, 2007
  18. hillclimber1

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    GWB supports this nonsense. Who says the next CIC will?

    The bill failed, not because of GW, but because of public outcry.
     
    #18 hillclimber1, Jul 7, 2007
  19. KenH

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    What does who is commander-in-chief of the military have to do with this issue?
     
    #19 KenH, Jul 7, 2007
  20. hillclimber1

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    You know what I meant. Easier to say CIC than, President. oh I could have said POTUS, anyway same office. Brevity my friend, brevity.
     
    #20 hillclimber1, Jul 7, 2007
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