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Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by 37818, Jan 1, 2022.

  1. 37818

    37818 Well-Known Member

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    #1 37818, Jan 1, 2022
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    Most newer versions read the same in those verses, especially the NKJV, and in modern language.

    Some that the KJV has wrong are:
    Ex. 20:13
    1 Tim. 6:10
    Acts 12:4
    Jude 25
    Rev. 16:5
    There are others, but these immediately come to mind.
     
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    Some key errors in the KJV :

    Mark 6:20
    Luke 18:12
    Acts 5:30
    Acts 19:37
    Acts 22:9
    James 3:2
    1 Cor. 4:4
    Heb. 9:7 (but Tyndale got right)
    Is. 65:11
    Is. 13:15
    1 Kings 10:28
    Gen. 50:20
    2 Sam. 14:20
    Song of Songs 2:12
    1 Cor. 10:24
    1 Thess. 5:14
     
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    KJV
    Ex 20:13 Thou shalt not kill.

    KJ21
    “Thou shalt not kill.
    ASV
    Thou shalt not kill.
    AMP
    “You shall not commit murder (unjustified, deliberate homicide).
    AMPC
    You shall not commit murder.
    BRG
    Thou shalt not kill.
    CSB
    Do not murder.
    CEB
    Do not kill.
    CJB
    ו “Do not murder. ז “Do not commit adultery. ח “Do not steal. ט “Do not give false evidence against your neighbor.
    CEV
    Do not murder.
    DARBY
    Thou shalt not kill.
    DRA
    Thou shalt not kill.
    ERV
    “You must not murder anyone.
    EHV
    You shall not commit murder.
    ESV
    “You shall not murder.
    ESVUK
    “You shall not murder.
    EXB
    “You must not murder anyone.
    GNV
    ¶ Thou shalt not kill.
    GW
    “Never murder.
    GNT
    “Do not commit murder.
    HCSB
    Do not murder.
    ICB
    “You must not murder anyone.
    ISV
    “You are not to commit murder. ז
    JUB
    Thou shalt not murder.
    KJV
    Thou shalt not kill.
    AKJV
    Thou shalt not kill.
    LEB
    “You shall not murder.
    TLB
    “You must not murder.
    MSG
    No murder.
    MEV
    You shall not murder.
    NOG
    “Never murder.
    NABRE
    You shall not kill.
    NASB
    “You shall not murder.
    NASB1995
    “You shall not murder.
    NCB
    “You shall not kill.
    NCV
    “You must not murder anyone.
    NET
    “You shall not murder.
    NIRV
    “Do not murder.
    NIV
    “You shall not murder.
    NIVUK
    ‘You shall not murder.
    NKJV
    “You shall not murder.
    NLV
    “Do not kill other people.
    NLT
    “You must not murder.
    NRSV
    You shall not murder.
    NRSVA
    You shall not murder.
    NRSVACE
    You shall not murder.
    NRSVCE
    You shall not murder.
    OJB
    Thou shalt not murder.
    RSV
    “You shall not kill.
    RSVCE
    “You shall not kill.
    TLV
    “Do not murder.
    VOICE
    You are not to murder.
    WEB
    “You shall not murder.
    WYC
    Thou shalt not slay. (Thou shalt not kill.)
    YLT
    `Thou dost not murder.
     
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    I noticed the KJV in all these cases are supported by the Majority/Byzantine Text.
    Do you have the manuscript evidence for Nestle/Aland version of Luke 4:4 by chance?
     
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    I have a NA26. It lists א B L W 1241 pc as the mss that omit the reading. The f35GNT shows that is 0.4% of the mss and 0.1% of another reading.
     
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    The Greek text?
     
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    The Geek text?
     
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    The Greek text?
     
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    Thank you! Nestle/Aland here cannot be correct. A primitive mistake, probably from copying a damaged manuscript. Of course N/A will think the words were added from Matthew or Deuteronomy. But it has no real manuscript support for such a view. A primitive error that only affected a few. pc (a few others)?
     
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    this is the very next verse Luke 4:5
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    Notice the words which fell out of Codex's Vaticanus, Sinaiticus, 1241 and so on. They fell out because of eye skip. It happens again and again with Vaticanus and Sinaiticus. The great ancestor of those two manuscripts made many accidental mistakes . There is a lot of differences between the two manuscripts. But agreements between the two in readings like this go back many generations to the 2nd century ancestor of Vaticanus/Sinaiticus. These are shared errors that go back to the second century.
    So we are not to see these two manuscripts as correct because of the ancestor's mistakes. Take out the mistakes of Vaticanus and Sinaiticus and you will have a Byzantine (mostly) text.
     
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    If you eat, you kill or have killed something. If you murder, you've deliberately & wrongfully ended the life of another person. "not to murder" is the intent of the command.
     
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    I don't have time right now to go thru it all, but the Hebrew word in Ex. 20:13 is 'ratsach', which generally pertains to murder.
     
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    Off topic of the thread.
     
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    Not at all. A goof in the KJV is "kill" in Ex. 20:13.

    But one verse the KJV has right & several other newer versions miss is John 7:8Go ye up unto this feast: I go not up yet unto this feast: for my time is not yet full come.
    Several other versions incorrectly leave out "yet".
     
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    So you actually believe KJV OT translation is the issue of Greek text which is the issue of this thread.
     
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