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Featured Kim Jong-un's Air Force

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Rolfe, Jan 16, 2016.

  1. Rolfe

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    Don't underestimate the North Korean Air Force. They could do a lot of damage.

    Their attack aircraft include the Su-7, Q-5, Su-25
    Bombers include the Il-28
    Their Fighter wings include F-7B, F-5, F-6, MiG-21, MiG-23, MiG-29
    And their Air Transport Division flies the IL-76, An-24, An-2

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    To Japan maybe...or South Korea. They wouldn't last long though. They could do damage, but nothing sustained. Within hours the air combat theater would be firmly controlled by anyone they are attacking. Having aircraft is one thing, having them equipped with quality armaments and flown by quality pilots is something entirely different.
     
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    Was gonna ignore this thread, then saw it was started by Rolf and figured it might be good for a chuckle...and it was/is.
     
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    How long have you been a military pilot and what platforms did you fly?

    The Su-25 is the combat equivalent to our A-10 Thunderbolt II (commonly called a "Warthog").

    The MiG-29 is a superior heavy fighter.

    And North Korean pilots are some of the best trained in the world, training and flying with both the People's Republic of China and Russian Air Forces.
     
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    But they're all export versions, right? It would be like comparing a Saudi F15 to one of ours.
     
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    Probably more like comparing the F-5 Tiger II to the F-20 Tigershark. I don't know if the Russians and Chinese sell less than cutting edge military hardware to their hegemony. It would certainly be something to look into.

    I would wonder of the Chengdu J-10 (F-16 clone) China sells to Pakistan is the same as the domestic version. And keep an eye on the Shenyang J-31, which many say is a F-35 clone. If they export that one we will have a source of additional information.
     
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    Do we need to suddenly post our entire military service records to have a conversation around here?

    Against which fighters? The F/A-18? F-15? F-22?

    Besides, it's widely reported they only have 5 or so MiG-29s that can get airborne from the late 1980s shipment.

    Maybe Macerick and Goose can exchange some international greetings before blowing them out of the sky. :D

    Perhaps, but I disagree. Among the best trained in Asia maybe. However, they lack the theater air control and coordination systems that more advanced countries have. Sending a handful of fighters into combat against an AWACS and JSTARS based air defense and engagement system that the US Air Force (Marines and Navy) use would as useful as sending a rifleman against an Abrams tank division.

    There's nothing that indicates NK has this kind of coordination or air superiority capabilities...well unless you've been taking the Great Leader too seriously. ;)
     
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    My friends at Rucker tell me about the Saudi pilot trainees they teach. They know that they're pretty much going to get a pass, and it shows.

    I can't imagine any North Korean pilots have that type of attitude. But I also have to question how many hours that they get in the cockpit per year, with NK's finances being what they are.
     
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    The op is funny though
     
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    I completely agree. :)
     
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    Well, I just expected someone who puts himself forward as an expert on military combat aircraft must have some experience as a pilot. After all, you know from personal experience the capabilities of those aircraft, right?
     
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    My friend at Rucker retired about 7 0r 8 years ago (as a BGen) and I retired in 2010 so I don't get much information out of Ft. Rucker any more. But I have heard stories of the Saudi pilots, most of whom are members of the royal family, who think the training is beneath them. They will very quickly discover differently when they get into a real shooting war.

    I always took my training flights very seriously, and managed to fly for 49 years without a serious mishap. I started flying in 1960, got my first license in 1964, and flew my last flight as pilot in command in 2009. (I lost my Aeromedical Certification due to vertigo caused by
    Meniere's disease that same year.) There are old pilots, and there are bold pilots, but there are no old, bold pilots! Or, as a friend recently put it, "Always listen to an old man in a profession where men die young." :D

    My Citabria. My Cherokee. And my last flight in the company's King Air.
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    I've never said I'm an expert on these matters. All this information and discussion is available on free or mostly free research sources. This is a web-forum, not a Congressional hearing chamber.

    My military service records aren't anyone's concern in this, or any other conversation around here. :)
     
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    Wow. Glad that I did not start a thread about the DPRK's army training program.

    [​IMG]

    Laugh
     
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    [TCassidy] : "I presume you have experience at sitting on a footstool and holding wooden sticks in a vertical position?"
     
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    I would do that job BOLDLY! My days are numbered.
     
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    Is there a reason that you are ashamed of your military (or lack thereof) service?
     
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