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King James Bible vs New age versions

Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by Bro. Tim L. Bynum, Feb 5, 2004.

  1. Bro. Tim L. Bynum

    Bro. Tim L. Bynum New Member

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    Fraser...it`s a PARTIAL truth issue . The rat
    thinks D-Con is just grain too ! [​IMG]
     
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    This NIV ERROR reminds me of the first question
    in the bible ( asked by that old serpent )...
    " Hath God Said "
    Fraser...Notice the partial truth in Gen.3:3-5.
    He`s subtil and like Eve the NIV crowd can`t see
    the error of Wescott and Hort,Zondervon,and ALL
    other MV`s, because of partial truth.
    Oh yea , you still haven`t given me an answer to, " What is the greek word for OMIT...is it in
    the T.R. ? I didn`t think so...where did Westcott and Hort get the authority to OMIT
    1st John 5:7&13 or Acts 8:37 ??? [​IMG]
     
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    Like My Pit Bull...I Love a Good Fight. Paul
    did too , " I`ve fought a good fight "


    Amen Brother Bynum...that`s good preachin` !!! [​IMG]
     
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    Do you want to know where to stand, find
    out where the enemy stands and do the opposite.
    The Charismatic movement and most TBN preachers
    hold to the NIV, oh yea, so does Hollywood Jesus
    films . [​IMG]
     
  5. Orvie

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    Guilt by association doesn't fly. You can't demonstrate anything, because the word, "demon" is in demonstrate! :eek: The KJV was the only version used by David Koresh, the Mormon Church, etc. Why don't you be consistent and stop using the AV1611, since it's association with these cults? :D :D :D (more gifts for qs)
     
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    Bro. Tim,

    While I appreciate your ideas on versions and translations, and in many cases agree, I would point out that there are much better ways to "know where to stand".

    It is often useful as a quick indicator, BUT...sometimes the enemy is right. F'rinstance, if a degenerate from Hollywood says "early treatment is the best thing for cancer", it would not be wise to say "well, then, I'm leaving mine to the last minute". Even in matters of the Scriptures, they can sometimes be right by accident.

    -PA Jim
     
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    Jim...most of the time it`s the best way ,
    Catholics...works SALVATION - KJB Grace through
    faith..good example , wouldn`t you say ? [​IMG]
     
  8. Orvie

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    Fraser, It takes a man to admit they were wrong and escape wrong teaching. Too bad Bro Tim and qs cling to their man made myth even with facts staring them in the face! They have this condition diagnosed from Dr Ed called, "Polytransphobia" [​IMG] I pray that they become rescued from the Nehushtan Pickled Version Sect like you were and many others. :D
     
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    KJV teaches works salvation in Rev 22:14 (gotcha :D ) I'm outta here for now- I look forward to demonstrating the fallacy of your Sect when I return. :cool:
     
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    Has my 2nd reply on this page stopped the mouth
    of the opposition ?
    Well I guess I can can go to school now with
    a sence of accomplishment.


    Later...unless banned . [​IMG]
     
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    Orvie...is that greek for (snipped),I`ll
    catch you later...Buster !
     
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    Orvie? Did you just say these used the AV 1611 KJB? How 'bout abused?
     
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    No, Fraser, heartwashed. The God who wrote the Bible is Who saves,not the Book. Of course a man can be saved by the Gospel, no matter the means, but that isn't all their is to Christian living now is there? Is there only one Doctrine in the Bible? No. several, and still counting. Salvation is actually second hand in doctrine, uh, the Doctrine of God is first and foremost.

    People who believe you can only be saved by the AV 1611 KJB are just mistaken, Everyone Jesus saved in the New Testament, He did without the KJB.

    You label me as KJVO as if I am a member of some kind of cult, but I just answered your question for the umpteenth time.
     
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    No, I believe they have gone to work. They will be back.
     
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    Originally posted by Bro. Tim L. Bynum:
    "Jesus loves me this I know, for the bible tells me so...( Well Atleast The King James Does)"

    And so do quite a few others.

    "If you folks want to know why I fight and claw
    so rough about The King James Bible being the
    only inspired bible,"

    Like a cat trying to bury its deposits on a marble floor...


    "here it is...The bible says in Psalms 138:2...for thou hast magnified thy word above ALL THY NAME."

    Clearly, a poor rendering, out of context with the rest of scripture.


    "I believe with ALL my heart in the King James
    Bible,"

    So do I, and quite a few others here, but we're NOT limited to just that one version, and NEITHER IS GOD. He's given us an example that we should follow.

    "I spiritually discern clearly that things
    that are different are not the same,"

    OK, the AV 1611 & 1769 Blayney's Edition of the KJV are not the same. Which one is valid?

    "and allof those new versions omit and change thousandsof words, that is in clear violation of Revelat.22:18 AND YOU KNOW IT IS,"

    But can you prove whether the NIV has OMITTED material, and that the KJV hasn't ADDED material?

    "and when you scoff and mock the King James Bible you are attacking something that my God hold dearer than his own name,"

    Please prove that.

    "and when I here that, I latch on to that
    fight like my Pit Bull Max would your leg if
    tried to harm my wife or daughter!"

    Ol'Max might have a prob if the person had a gun. WE have the 'gun' of GOD'S EVIDENCE that He is NOT limited to just one Bible version.What do YOU have? Where's YOUR evidence??


    "If you want to see an Old Testament picture
    of my zeal,look at Phinehas in Numbers 25:6-13."

    Better leave the spear-chucking to the Lord; yours isn't going anywhere. YOUR spear is going up against a TANK.


    "I can`t stop for "Deeper Lifers" I must keep
    working like Nehemiah, if I make some enemies
    along the way,I remind myself that Jesus made a
    few when he called the religious crowd a generation of vipers."

    You're not making enemies; you're only making yourself a laughing-stock. Your credibility went "Poof!" with your Riplinger statement.
     
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    The English "standard" Bible in 1605, used by the common people and many a church, was the GENEVA BIBLE. This is confirmed by every study of the history of the Bible in English.
     
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    I don't think He expects anybody to read it without touching it. And bud, YOU are the one with a tremendous fear that God cannot preserve His Word. Why do you have such a fear of many translations?

    Well, here's news for you, (and a multitude of others), He did just that in our AV 1611 KJB

    He did what? He kept "man's grubby little hands" off it? Nope, they touched it, and the queer king you worship and his puppets did a lot more than that. Your Anglican Bible just don't hunt fer itself. And your cowardice to answer a previous question doesn't make your case either; nor does it make the cast for that even stupider poster.
    </font>[/QUOTE]What in the devil are you talking about? I have never said I "fear" other versions, I usually trample on them and be sure not the touch the name of Jesus with my feet.

    The other day a young man found an nas "v" in an old car he bought at auction, he proceeded to rip the pages out of the book. I stopped him and asked how many times did he tear the name of Jesus ? He stoppped and said that is right, but went on to finish the job of ripping the book to shreds. I guess I could 've hit him or something, but I'm not responsible for his actions, but I do appreciate his zeal for the Truth of God's Word and his willingness to trash all others. I am only responsible to present the Truth, not how others process the Truth. So tell the truth, have I ever said I "fear" other versions? No.

    Uh, I worship the King of kings, Lord of lords, uh, do you mean the Lord is a "queer"? The Lord's disciples are His "puppets"? :confused:

    Do I really hold to an "Anglican Bible"? No. Does my Bible "hunt" like a hound dog? Only if you're a fugitive from the law. The Word of God has a way of huntin' out man's sinful blood only to offer His Son's Blood in exchange!

    Am I really the coward you try to think I am? Maybe that's the problem, you're trying to think. I haven't seen you at my doorstep waving your fists in my face, best you don't, you will be asked to leave nicely, if you refuse, then the means of force will certainly ensue.

    Is "stupider" really a word? Maybe I'm wrong to indicate it's not, maybe you just invented it and all the dictionaries will need updating. Will this then cause just another perversion of the Word of God and require just one more "book of the month club" edition by the "Probably Close Enuf Club"? I'll try to look it up, so please bear with me a little in my folly. :D

    Buurrrp! [​IMG] Excuse me, I just finished the rest of my diet Code Red, man, those things are good!
    ;)
     
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    Cranston:
    Yeah and don't tie your mule up there, Cranston, the Puritans had already pleaded with the king to please give us the Bible in 1604. The Geneva was good, but the AV 1611 KJB is better. Oliver Cromwell, noted Puritan, saw to it his fellow brethren came to this knowledge and they left the Geneva behind, don't you know history? or do you just snip little sections out to try and prove your point? :rolleyes:

    We're "Puritans" by belief and standard, we will hold to the KJB no matter what the devil tries to persuade otherwise. [​IMG]
     
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    Bro, Tim L. Bynum:
    "Again I say...THINGS THAT ARE DIFFERENT ARE
    NOT THE SAME !!!
    The NIV is not the bible,they`re not the same."

    How do you KNOW? Where's your PROOF? What have you presented to us to convince us that the NIV is not a Bible? Because it aint the KJV? Well, apples aint oranges, but they're both fruits, while apples and concrete blocks aint both fruits. But they aint both stones either. You gotta PROVE your statements about the Bible, be it NIV or KJV.

    And the everyday KJV editions in use today are each a little different among themselves,and all are significantly different from the AV 1611, the ORIGINAL KJV. Which one is the "official" KJV, and why?
     
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    Mr. Meadows, there is no other Scripture in the KJV where God places ANYTHING even close to equal to His name. He has given Jesus a name that's above any other name. But again this must be taken in context and not merely ripped from a page of the Bible. Jesus repeatedly says He came to do HIS FATHER'S will and not His own; thus Jesus is in submission and obedience to His Father, Yahweh, and His name isn't above that of HIS FATHER.

    Among men, the words aren't greater than their author, and how much more so is that with GOD?

    I believe a better rendering of Ps.138:2, according to the context of Scripture in general, would be, "...along with thy name".
     
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