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KJVO claims disproven by the AV 1611/KJV itself

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  1. Alcott

    Alcott Well-Known Member
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    Exactly how many people must hate a holy book for that to prove it is the Word of God?
     
    #41 Alcott, Feb 19, 2005
  2. LRL71

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    Duh! :confused:

    Good point, which is obviously lost with KJV-onlyists! [​IMG]
     
    #42 LRL71, Feb 19, 2005
  3. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    I would hate to think this is a valid method for determining the perfect Bible version...

    The most hated version isn't the KJV, its the NIV. Does that mean that the NIV is the preserved Word for modern man?     </font>[/QUOTE]The NIV is the most hated version? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah.     </font>[/QUOTE]Thank you fir that well, thought out, articulate contribution to the debate.
     
    #43 NaasPreacher (C4K), Feb 20, 2005
  4. LRL71

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    Another brilliant KJV-only argument! [​IMG]


    Ahem. :rolleyes:
     
    #44 LRL71, Feb 20, 2005
  5. robycop3

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    KJVBiblethimper: Suggestion for RobyCop3,
    Since you lend so much credibility to the marginal notes

    Same fellers wrote the notes as wrote the text. please note my comments upon "selective believing" above.


    I suggest you only read them instead of the rest of the Bible [ad hominem argument deleted].

    I suggest you cut/paste any post of mine from any board where I've ever said such...or you will have proven yourself a prevaricator.

    I see absolutely NO comment from you concerning the subject matter of this thread. All I see is the same ole lame KJVO tactic..."I can't answer, so I'll insult the messenger".

    How about it...Do you believe ALL the commentary of the men who wrote your fave BV or not? or, do you believe them only to the extent that their writings agree with the KJVO myth, which came about only after all those men were long-dead?

    AND.......

    You said you were gonna post a little study to put all us multi-versions users in our place, but that you needed a little time. Well, more than a little time has passed since then. Whassamattuh...Give up?

    [ February 20, 2005, 03:49 PM: Message edited by: Phillip ]
     
    #45 robycop3, Feb 20, 2005
  6. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    Funny that one of the key selling points of the KJV1611 New Testament on the Ruckman website is that it includes the marginal notes.

    https://secure1.affinity.com/ssl/kjv116/1611%20Reproduction.htm
     
    #46 NaasPreacher (C4K), Feb 20, 2005
  7. rsr

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    A drive-by thumping?
     
    #47 rsr, Feb 20, 2005
  8. David J

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    KJVBibleThumper,

    You disappoint me greatly. If you can not address the subject of this thread then simply don't post. Using the KJVO tactic of insults and evasion makes you look bad.

    Months ago I asked you about the AV1611 that you really did not want to answer. When I was a KJVO it was the AV1611 that proved to me that KJVOism is false. Now try to answer our questions about the AV1611. Now show me something and answer our questions about the AV1611.

    End for KJVBT

    Funny thing is the silence from the KJVO Camp when the AV1611 is the subject. Some KJVOist like Waite only tell you a half truth about the AV1611. The main problem for KJVOism is the AV1611.

    In order to admit the AV1611 exist KJVOist must do the following:

    1. ignore the marginal notes, calendars, Message to the Reader, etc... that exist in the AV1611.

    2. attack the marginal notes etc... as not being inspired etc... thus creating a smokescreen in order to evade what the men who put together the KJV wrote and believed.

    3. KJVOism tells you to trust KJVOism and discredit anything the AV1611 translators wrote in the explanations and alternate readings. In other words the AV1611 translators can not be trusted!

    4. Rely upon people like Riplinger, Ruckman, and Waite to tell you what was really meant in 1611 and that a change is really not a change and/or mistakes are advanced revelations.


    *KJVOism can not honestly answer the AV1611 and explain why the translator’s notes destroy the KJVO myths.

    *notice I said KJVOism and not KJVOist.

    Let’s have a good discussion about the AV1611 and the translators without pulling in off topic stuff that only tries to change the subject. Here is you chance KJVOist! Go ahead and take a crack at it. I’m all ears LOL!
     
    #48 David J, Feb 20, 2005
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    Sounds like a cult to me.
     
    #49 gb93433, Feb 20, 2005
  10. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    Sounds like a cult to me. [/QB][/QUOTE]

    This aspect only applies to Psalm 12.
     
    #50 NaasPreacher (C4K), Feb 20, 2005
  11. Phillip

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    Quite a brilliant post there. If it wasn't so obviously ridiculous, I would delete it based on its obvious slander of the Word of God.
     
    #51 Phillip, Feb 20, 2005
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    no :confused:

    I'm just adding new ones.
    Haven't seen a new argument from
    a certain camp for months now :eek:

    Jam 2:3 (KJV1611 edition):

    And yee haue respect to him that
    weareth the gay clothing,
    and say vnto him, Sit thou here
    in a good place: and say to the poore,
    Stand thou there, or sit here vnder
    my footstoole:

    The song was:
    Don we now our gay apparel
    Fa La La; La La La; La La La

    The modern wording is now:
    Putting on homosexual garments,
    Fa La La; La La La; La La La
     
    #52 Ed Edwards, Feb 20, 2005
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    Come to think of it, Ed, they may have exhausted their excuses I reckon it's same as the latest books promoting the KJVO myth...same garbage, differently-colored dumpster.

    Isn't just amazing how much of their myth that the REAL KJV, the AV 1611, nullifies?
     
    #53 robycop3, Feb 21, 2005
  14. LRL71

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    OMIGHOSH!! I'm laughing so hard right now my wife thinks I'm mad! [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]


    (well, I think she KNOWS I'm mad already! :eek: )
     
    #54 LRL71, Feb 21, 2005
  15. LRL71

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    The best weapon against KJV-onlyism is the 1611KJV! [​IMG] I think that these KJV translators would be turning in their graves right now if they saw whatever was going on now! [​IMG]
     
    #55 LRL71, Feb 21, 2005
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    The MIGHT be laffing hard as YOU were!

    I see no answers from the KJVOs. Once again, we've used FACT vs GUESSWORK.

    I believe those translators knew more about their own creation than any of US could know in this life.

    Lemme ask you, sports fans...Do you put more stock in the men who made the AV and commented about their work than you do in a myth about their creation that was started over 300 years later by a cult official? The AV men told us about the antiquity of the LXX while some of the modern mythmongers deny it even existed! We couple this FACT with the FACTS of the OT quotes found in the NT against the GUESSWORK & FISHING STORIES of the KJVO myth to show it wrong yet again against the version its followers claim to uphold.
     
    #56 robycop3, Feb 22, 2005
  17. Phillip

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    OMIGHOSH!! I'm laughing so hard right now my wife thinks I'm mad! [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]


    (well, I think she KNOWS I'm mad already! :eek: )     </font>[/QUOTE]You just doing what I do. Confirm to her that everything is okay, nothing has changed and your "still" mad. (At least that's what my wife would be thinking. ;) )
     
    #57 Phillip, Feb 22, 2005
  18. LRL71

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    Hmmmm.... the silence of the KJVOnlies is deafening to say the least. Perhaps they can start another topic, and then we can come in and shine the light of truth upon their myths!
     
    #58 LRL71, Feb 22, 2005
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    hmmm~the silence was golden for about 200 years, eh, and for the first 47 yrs of my saved life.
     
    #59 GrannyGumbo, Feb 22, 2005
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    The problem is Granny that those who were KJV "only" in our day had not fallen off the edge of the universe by saying (among other incredible things) that a 20/21st century KJVO "prophet" located and defined hundreds of "advanced revelations" in the King James Bible hitherto unknown to even the Apostles themselves.

    HankD
     
    #60 HankD, Feb 22, 2005
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