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Discussion in 'Free-For-All Archives' started by bb_baptist, Oct 16, 2004.

  1. bb_baptist

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    Time (LV | 10/14-10/15): Bush 48, Kerry 46, Nader 3 | Bush JA @ 49%
    Newsweek (LV | 10/14-10/15): Bush 50, Kerry 44, Nader 1
    Tracking: Rasmussen: Bush 48, Kerry 46
    Zogby: Bush 48, Kerry 44, Nader 1
    TIPP: Bush 48, Kerry 45, Nader 2
    WaPo 10/15: Bush 48, Kerry 48, Nader 1

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/index.html
     
  2. The Galatian

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    Bush slipped quite a bit in the electoral vote map, primarily because the last poll in Florida puts Bush and Kerry at a precise tie there, and because the last poll in Nevada went to Kerry.

    As of today, neither has enough electoral votes to win.

    Still anyone's race, but a small change could tip the balance in many states. The country remains as divided as it has been for a while. Unfortunately, a president capable of uniting Americans is not likely to happen any time soon.
     
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    I hope that Bush loses the election—but I don’t hope that Kerry wins. Nader is nothing but a political nuisance. What ever happened to real Americans like Lincoln, FDR, and Kennedy?

    [​IMG]
     
  4. The Galatian

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    The system ruthlessly removes them.
     
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    Galatian,

    What do you mean when you say "ruthlessly removes them"?

    Joseph Botwinick
     
  6. The Galatian

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    The partisans of the two major parties punish candidates for telling the truth, by voting for someone else. Bush has always understood this. Kerry appears to be catching on; he lied about as much as Bush did on the last debate. It's difficult if not impossible for a truthful candidate to even be nominated, unless he lies or hides in the pack until late in the primaries.

    I guess they rationalize that it's just necessary to win. But habits are hard to break.
     
  7. KenH

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    You are right, Galatian. It is doubtful that a candidate running on a platform to balance the federal budget, reform Social Security to save it, reform Medicare to save it, reform the health care system so that it didn't cost so much, fix our trade policy to eliminate the trade deficit, and pay off the national debt in thirty years could be elected.

    Instead, we are probably going to go from one budgetary and fiscal and economic crisis to another and have to eventually take Draconian actions to even try to hopefully stay financially afloat in these United States.
     
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    The most recent polls seem to show Bush ahead in Florida. The link given in the original post confirms this.

    Even figuring in the margin of error it looks like Bush. Basically a two point lead for Kerry to about a nine or ten point lead for Bush. Bush appears to be in the stronger position.
     
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    Checking Nevada we find the same thing. Ranges from a tie to around a twelve point lead for Bush.
     
  10. ballfan

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    Takes time for the historians to catch up. In his day Lincoln was not all that well liked. FDR fared better. The more we find out about Kennedy the bigger disaster he looks like. Did he actually win his election or did he get in through voter fraud in Ill.
     
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    Electoral vote map, based on a composite of the major polls for each state:

    http://www.electoral-vote.com/

    Right now, Kerry 253 Bush 247

    But not all the polls from after the last debate are out. There should be some movement this week.
     
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