left/right?

It is our place to preach the whole counsel of God's Word to them.

Again, you are confusing the concept of inviting the lost to a church building for an event where they will hear the gospel with the idea of welcoming the unrepentent lost sinner into membership in the church (meaning membership in the body of Christ). Are you actually arguing for the idea that being a member of "XYZ Church" equates with salvation?

No here is saying that anyone has to "become sin free" before they are allowed to be members of the body of Christ--the church. We are saying that in order to be a member of the body of Christ--the church, one must be born again, meaning confessed and repented of one's sins and asked Jesus to be one's Lord and Savior.

 

My "TO ME" is meant as how the Scripture speaks to me. I have been on this board and read enough of how you think the scripture speaks to you. And believe Most isn't the same. I'm just praying that the Holy Sprit works in your heart a little longer.

 

Your "To Me" of how Scripture speaks to you is obviously different than LeBuick. That does not make either what Scripture actually says. Opinion and Inspriation of the Word are two different things. It probably explains how there was one church in Acts, and there are thousands of groups today. What is it you are praying for the Holy Spirit to do in his heart, come closer to how you view the Scripture?

 

You have hit the nail on the head regarding their discussion. Both are reading their Bibles with a "This says so and so to me" interpretation. However, neither is allowing the Scripture to speak for itself. This is what happens when we approach the Bible with our presuppositions and refuse to set them aside and allow the Bible to speak for itself. Gordon Fee said his book, How to Read the Bible for all its Worth, "You can never make the Bible say what it never said in the first place."

 

I agree with this. Bearing false witness, even in generalities, against the brothers and sisters in Christ who post here will not be tolerated on this board. So please present your proof, clear quotes and links to the BB posters who advocate what you accuse.

Lady Eagle

 

Just knocking this one back up to the top so that brother LeBuick can see that we are still waiting on him to provide clear quotes and links to posts that prove BB posters have advocated the things he said, or retract his statements.

 

From the same source about the Left.

The term today has different meanings in different countries. In the United States, left-wing is often used as a synonym for the Democratic Party, which is more socially liberal than the Republican Party.

It seems that you posted the part you liked and neglected to post the truth.

 

If I misunderstood your definition of The Church then I apologize.

 

True, so look how much content God devoted to fire and brimstone in the pages of His Word. He spent far more time explaining love and forgiveness. Teaching us to turn the other cheek and how to love the sinner while hating the sin.

 

I thought I did let scripture speak for itself. I prefaced it by saying, "I'll bring this to your attention, look at who Jesus said will be on His Right at the judgment" then posted scripture with no exhortation or explanation.

If I distorted the Word then I apologize but I think Christ was clear how he wanted us to co-exist with the world.

 

Now this is an interesting post. You wrote "Bearing false witness, even in generalities, against the brothers and sisters in Christ"

Now I could say to you all the words that have been said to me many times, search yourself. However, I'll let that go.

 

You sure about that? How many times does the Bible talk about hell vs. how many times it speaks about heaven?

How many times does the Bible speak about turning the other cheek vs. how many times it talks about hell?

Exactly what verse is the one that tells us to love the sinner while hating the sin?

 

BB, you need only look in one of the many abortion threads to see what I mean about scaring or shaming Christians into being on the conservative side. There has been post that specifically you can't vote for Obama and be a Christian.

Your game talking about prove it is absurd and I won't play that game. As many times as I have been accused of supporting the slaughter of unborn children, trust me, I've seen the scare tactic on more than one occasion.

As for not allowing sinners in the physical brick and mortar we call the Church, there are some here, I think Rev Mitchell may be one, who have specifically said they will not allow sinners in their Church. I will look for one of the post but this game of prove it is just that, a game.

 

I will let you answer the other questions since you seem to know but Jesus was sent as our example and taught us how to live then showed us how to die.

For God so loved the world... For God so loved the sinner, that he sent his Son to die for their sins. God hates our sins but he loves us the sinner. That is the example we should go forward with.

 

You don't know. I thought so...

No one is denying that God loves the cosmos (His entire creation) so much so that He sent Jesus to die for its redemption. But where is it exactly that God's Word tells us that we are to knowing include the unsaved as fellow members of the body of Christ?

 

I am not talking about politics here. I am talking about the way you implicated that conservative Christians do not minister to or share the gospel with the lost. I maintain that the charges you leveled against your brothers and sisters in Christ here on the BB are false and you should either prove your points with clear quotes and links or retract the statements. Or is this going to be another one of your John McCain caused the fire on the USS Forrestal unproven assertions?

 

We don't all get to have our own definitions of the church. The question is how is the church defined by God's Word?

 

No I don't need to look anywhere. You made the accusation and the burden of proof is on you.

No game here. I am dead serious. Prove your accusations against your fellow brothers and sisters in Christ with clear quotes and links or retract your statements. Otherwise, I'll be calling for the BB Administrative Council to take action against you.

Waiting for you to present the evidence of this claim (now specifically about RevM since you openly named him).