Featured Liberal Kirsten Powers Converted

That sure is a lot of reading to make the ludicrous statements you do about God's sovereignty. You would have been better off setting the books on fire for all the good they did.

 

The unregenerate, the unconverted, the unchurched, the unsaved can "do" parts of the Law, but not all. They have broken commandment #1, being in their sinful state.

 

This entire post is one Gigantically HUGE example of a "Red-Herring". Nothing you said is relevant or even speaks to what W.D. said.

 

Now...just show from Scripture any commandment which says:

"Thou shalt not 'be' in a 'sinful state' "...
And you will have proved your point.

 

And your point is........???????? We believe the exact opposite. We believe that there is no fallen man this side of heaven who is in a glorified sinless state!

Again, there is absolutely no scripture that teaches the lost man does the law as commanded but only attempts to do the law and his attempts always comes short every single time because to fail in one point is to fail in all points and therefore one must succeed in all points to succeed in one point or as Jesus stated "be ye therefore perfect EVEN AS your father in heaven is perfect." No fallen man has every yet done ANYTHING "good" in God's sight - Rom. 3:9-12.

Furthermore, the fallen nature in the saved man can do nothing good (Rom. 7:18).

 

Romans 8:7-8 are without doubt the best verses in all of scripture that seem to support Total Inability.

What folks misunderstand is that the unregenerate man is not simply flesh, he is also soul and spirit, and the spirit can be willing and obey God.

Mat 26:41 Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.

This is the story of Jesus telling his disciples to pray in the garden. It is certain they made an effort to obey and pray as Jesus said, but their flesh caused them to fall asleep. Nevertheless, Jesus said their spirit was indeed willing to obey and pray. This could not be speaking of the Holy Spirit, as no believer had received the Holy Spirit until after Jesus rose from the dead and was glorified (Jhn 7:39)

We KNOW that unregenerate men can obey God and believe the gospel because we have several scriptures that show this.

Gal 3:2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

Paul's question demands the answer that these Galatians received the Holy Spirit by first believing the gospel. This proves unregenerate men have the ability to obey and believe the gospel, and then afterward they receive the Holy Spirit.

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Peter's statement easily shows men first believe the gospel (because only believers are allowed to be baptized) and afterward receive the Holy Spirit. Therefore unregenerate men can be willing and obey the gospel.

Acts 19:2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.

Paul's question here easily shows he believed a person first believes, and receives the Holy Spirit afterward as a result of believing the gospel.

Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

Ephesians 1:13 is as plain as it gets and directly says a person first hears the gospel, then believes it, and only after believing receives and is sealed by the Spirit, thus proving unregenerate man has the ability to be willing and believe the gospel.

And of course Cornelius was not saved, nor did he have the indwelling Holy Spirit, yet he feared God, prayed always, and did righteous works that were acceptable to God.

It is true while an unsaved person dwells on the flesh that he cannot possibly obey or please God, and this is what Romans 8:7-8 teaches. But it is not saying that a man is always compelled to be carnally minded. Many scriptures prove that unregenerate men can listen to and believe the gospel, and when they do they will receive the Holy Spirit and be regenerated.

You must ignore MUCH scripture that refutes Total Inability to be a Calvinist.

Some men obey, some don't. On the day of Pentacost over 3000 persons obeyed the gospel and were saved.

Absolutely. Paul clearly said the Gentiles who do not have the law DO "by nature" the things contained in the law.

No, you are simply ignoring MUCH scripture that clearly shows unregenerate men can listen to and believe God's word if they choose to do so. Paul is not saying men are unable to seek God, he is simply saying they do not.

If I were to say to you, "My neighbors NEVER go to church, no NOT ONE" would you understand that to mean they are UNABLE to go to church? NO, no one would ever interpret my statement to mean that, but that is exactly how you are interpreting Paul's words, you are inserting Total Inabilty into scripture when that is not what the scripture is saying whatsoever.

 

We know for a fact that Cornelius was not saved, and that he did not have the receive the Holy Spirit until Peter came and preached the gospel to him, but he was able to do righteous works.

Acts 10:30 And Cornelius said, Four days ago I was fasting until this hour; and at the ninth hour I prayed in my house, and, behold, a man stood before me in bright clothing,
31 And said, Cornelius, thy prayer is heard, and thine alms are had in remembrance in the sight of God.

Acts 10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

Again, Cornelius was not saved, and he did not have the Holy Spirit, yet he was able to do righteous works that were acceptable to God.

Total Inability is false and easily refuted by MUCH scripture. Calvinists simply close their eyes are are willingly blind to scripture.

 

All I have to say is that you are theologically pathetic.