Featured Lies About John Calvin Refuted

You are correct. I said previously that i was going to bow out of this and stuff like it but I always allow myself to get drawn back in. No more.

For those who want to idolize persecutors and murderers, they have a problem, but it's not my problem.

AS SN has rightly said, holding to a theology does not mean that one must affirm murderers and persecutors who also hold to that theology.

 

Keep in mind that King David committed adultery, conspiracy, and murder. He was terrible father and tempted God through a census. Yet he is considered a righteous king and a man after God's own heart.

John Calvin was an influential Reformer who has contributed much good to the Church. He was a redeemed sinner who's most glaring weaknesses are exploited by his enemies in order to achieve a theological victory. Would they invite the same scrutiny over their own misdeeds?

 

King David humbled himself before the Lord. John Calvin was a self centered, murdering, persecuting, lying slob until the day he died. Since I agree with John Calvin on sovereignty and grace, as do many others on this board, but despise the character of Calvin, then your theory about attacking Calvin to enjoy a theological victory, are proven incorrect.

 

Did I address anyone by name? If the shoe fits...

 

The shoe fits exactly, and that is exactly what I meant. This is a public debate forum and does not require an address by name. If that is what you desire, use a PM to someone.

I thought the name of the song was "Hark the Herald Angels Sing" not "Hark, Herald is Babbling."

There is a big difference between someone who commits a sin and confesses then humbles themselves before the Lord, and one that continues the same pattern until death. How dare you compare David with Calvin?

 

Then it does not fit for you, but it does for many in here. I am not as well informed as you. I do not know the inner workings of John Calvin's heart. I do not know whether he repented from each sin he committed in his lifetime. I will defer to your expertise on his life. I do know his biblical exegesis on many subjects has been an invaluable asset to the Church. For that I am grateful.

As for comparing him to David; get over your faux outrage. David was considered a righteous king because God chose him. He elected him. He was redeemed; born from above. Even though he committed great wickedness he was forgiven (although suffered the earthly consequences). If John Calvin was a Christian (and I have no reason to doubt that), he was just as righteous as David. So are you...if the shoe fits.

 

I told you in another post that the shoe did fit, or do you read before responding? No one here claims expertise. The record speaks for itself. Read it sometime. You show me one shred of evidence from the record that John Calvin had any hint of the fruits of the Holy Spirit in his inner being.

If you are depending on the character of a man that a doctrine was named after to validate a doctrine instead of Scripture and God's Word, then you have many problems. What kind of mindset connects the actions of a flawed human being with God being able to keep Himself sovereign?

God did not assign the name Calvin to His sovereignty and grace. Man did. Had Calvin never been born, we would have done just fine.

It seems to me you are much more concerned about how Calvin lead his life than doing the Lord's work some 500 years later.

 

Like it says in my signature . . .

 

I am content to let your words stand on their merits. No commentary is needed by me.

 

So glad to see you content, and I mean every word of my post. You are correct in your second sentence and Baptist Board appreciates it.

 

And just why are they suspect?

 

I Just love his quote of Beza's defense, "Where is this cruelty? Servetus alone was sent to the fire."

 

You are finally understanding.