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Limbaugh is absolutely absurd

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by ASLANSPAL, Jul 16, 2005.

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  1. ASLANSPAL

    ASLANSPAL New Member

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    Of course people don't like labels...when that
    may cause you to rebel against God leading and
    to sell yourself over to a political party is
    suicide ..it is important to be an individual
    and ask for help from God.

    Even within conservatism they disagree...I like
    William F.Buckley and his common sense about
    the war right now.

    I understand what Pat Buchanan is saying about
    how we are actually creating more terrorists
    and they want us off their land..I respect his
    straight shooting.

    I like the voices that advocate secure borders.

    I am open to the Irish model on abortion policy
    in this country.

    I also like the ideas by Democrats to drastically
    reduce abortion in this country and quit playing
    political football with the issue.

    I think bush is incompetent...I think condi rice
    is incompetent.

    I think their has been massive deception coming
    out of this white house..we may not see it..but
    God does and that is what counts.

    I think Israel must be defended but I don't have
    to like Arial Sharon.

    People such as Ann Coulter and Michael Savage
    are bottom feeders they incite so they can
    pull in the dollars.

    I like what this kid has to say not because he
    is a conservative but because of some nuggets
    of wisdom God has revealed to him at an early
    age.

    http://www.baptistboard.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/18/3252.html


    But I will not park my brain at the doorstep of
    bush or lockstep with republicans or democrats.

    shocker! Bill Clinton was really a moderate
    republican on a lot of issues

    shocker! Hillary Clinton is even more conservative
    than her husband.

    we use labels to demonize others and conveniently
    de humanize them...rush has been doing
    that for a decade and more and people get sucked
    into it...they need to think and be lead of God.

    so it is bunk in my book ..you can embrace it
    if you want but you are limiting yourself.The
    holy spirit may lead you to think
    outside the box..its called solutions and creativity....when you are a ideologue you
    lock yourself down and refuse to think and solve
    outside the box.

    Proud to be Independent and free

    Sincerely
    Aslanspal
     
    #101 ASLANSPAL, Jul 19, 2005
  2. Baptist in Richmond

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    To which Joseph has responded twice:
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    Now that was a great post, Joseph. Senator Kerry actually served in Vietnam. Put another way, Senator Kerry actually wore the uniform of your country. I am sure that you consider yourself to be patriotic, and yet you have no reservations about comparing Senator Kerry to the man who betrayed our Lord and Savior. I guess that patriotism only goes as far as political affiliation will allow. Even President Bush didn't publicly question Kerry's service, did he?

    Yes, and who said otherwise?
    Perhaps you should get the book Big Lies by Joe Conason, and read the chapter about "male cheerleaders and chickenhawks."
    John Kerry actually served in Vietnam. In other words, he was actually there. Can the same be said for the President or the Vice President?

    Truth be told, I never really thought much of Kerry until I read the pathetic book Unfit for Command and watched the author on television. Now I really love the guy......
     
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  3. Baptist in Richmond

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    First of all, welcome to the discussion.
    Labels could be avoided, should either side determine that they want to avoid them. Read a few of the discussions in this particular forum and you will notice that labels are used frequently. You will also find that some among us cannot make an argument without using labels. You will also find that some use labels to describe themselves without fully understanding what the label really is. For example, I have seen some people call themselves "neoconservatives" and have never read anything by Kristol (father or son).

    That is because you have never spoken with me. Once a hard-core-right-wing Republican, I had an epiphany, and became a born-again LIBERAL Republican. I don't mind being called a LIBERAL, and some among us cannot respond to me without calling me a LIBERAL.

    Are you sure that this is your experience?
    This is almost verbatim from Rush Limbaugh. I have been listening to him for over ten years now, and he has been saying precisely this for as long as I have been tuning into the show. I know that Sean Hannity claims this as his experience too, as does Bill O'Reilly. I don't have an AirAmerica affiliate here in the Commonwealth, but I can listen via streaming audio and when I am on the road (extensive business travel), and I have never heard Al Franken ( [​IMG] ) say anything like this. The same can be said for Jerry Springer and Randi Rhodes. As a matter of fact, Al Franken is on Sundance Channel every weeknight, so you can see for yourself.

    I would strongly disagree with this. As a matter of fact, Rush Limbaugh says exactly this about LIBERALS. My experience with independents is that they do not identify themselves with one exclusive political party. Bill O'Reilly even claims to be independent. Would you say that he is "characterized by the habit of giving in to pressure?" [sic]

    Did you forget that it is a FACT that this isn't the first time Rove has been accused of this behavior?

    God's Best to you and your family,
    BiR
     
    #103 Baptist in Richmond, Jul 19, 2005
  4. hillclimber

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    How dare you cast aspersions on the National Guard?
     
    #104 hillclimber, Jul 19, 2005
  5. hillclimber

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    And John F. Kerry most certainly behaved like a coward in leaving his fallen mate in the water and hitailing it out of harms way until the fight was over. Then racing back to "rescue him."
    John Kerry is everything I find dispicable in a soldier, and an American.
     
    #105 hillclimber, Jul 19, 2005
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    If any of you watched Joe Wilson's news conference last week, you heard him say that his wife was not undercover when the Novak article was published. Doesn't that end the entire argument. If she is not undercover, how could her cover be blown?
     
    #106 Libero, Jul 19, 2005
  7. Baptist in Richmond

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    Quite an observation about someone you probably don't even know........
     
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  8. Baptist in Richmond

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    So, when is it okay to out someone that is in the CIA?
    And by the way, what about anyone that might have been associated with her that was undercover?
     
    #108 Baptist in Richmond, Jul 20, 2005
  9. Joseph_Botwinick

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    If she is not undercover, then she was not outed.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
    #109 Joseph_Botwinick, Jul 20, 2005
  10. ASLANSPAL

    ASLANSPAL New Member

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    This from conservative Andrew Sullivan

    http://www.andrewsullivan.com/

    FRAMING PLAME: The government memo cited in today's Wall Street Journal seems to support the idea that Valerie Plame's identity as a CIA agent was indeed regarded as sensitive within the government, despite some assertions that her cover was no big deal any more. (Her company's cover was another matter entirely). Money quote from the WSJ:
    A classified State Department memo that may be pivotal to the CIA leak case made clear that information identifying an agent and her role in her husband's intelligence-gathering mission was sensitive and shouldn't be shared, according to a person familiar with the document... The memo's details are significant because they will make it harder for officials who saw the document to claim that they didn't realize the identity of the CIA officer was a sensitive matter. Patrick Fitzgerald, the special prosecutor, may also be looking at whether other crimes -- such as perjury, obstruction of justice or leaking classified information -- were committed... The paragraph in the memo discussing Ms. Wilson's involvement in her husband's trip is marked at the beginning with a letter designation in brackets to indicate the information shouldn't be shared, according to the person familiar with the memo. Such a designation would indicate to a reader that the information was sensitive. The memo, though, doesn't specifically describe Ms. Wilson as an undercover agent, the person familiar with the memo said.
    Interesting.Maybe Rove had indeed said too much.
     
    #110 ASLANSPAL, Jul 20, 2005
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    church mouse guy Well-Known Member
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    Joe Wilson lied about yellowcake for political reasons. Actually, I think that Joe Wilson is a total burnout and needs lots of bed rest.
     
    #111 church mouse guy, Jul 20, 2005
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    Quite an observation about someone you probably don't even know........ </font>[/QUOTE]So do you know everyone you talk about? I thought not.

    I believe what JFK's buddies wrote about him and their overwhelming testimony is good enough for me. You may feel free to defend JFK if you want, but America dodged a great bullet in 2004. You are aligned with a political machine that, will go so far as to destroy America, if it will regain them power.
     
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    So, when is it okay to out someone that is in the CIA?
    And by the way, what about anyone that might have been associated with her that was undercover?

    The law doesn't cover that.
    She had not been under cover for the last 5 years, the time period for which the law covers.
     
    #113 hillclimber, Jul 20, 2005
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    Back to the OP

    And today it is reported that R. Limbaugh is still the number 1 Talk Radio Host in America.

    It shakes out like this in NYC - a Blue State.

    LIMBAUGH TOP POLITICAL TALK NYC
    APRIL-JUNE 2005
    [ALL LISTENERS]

    LIMBAUGH 139,000 [QTR HOUR]
    HANNITY 99,100
    MARK LEVIN 74,300
    O'REILLY 72,700
    SAVAGE 61,900
    AL FRANKEN 61,400
     
    #114 Hardsheller, Jul 20, 2005
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    [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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  17. Baptist in Richmond

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    Amazing.........

    Glad to see you have a clear vision of exactly who is our enemy.

    No need to reply, Joseph. Hope you have a great week.

    Regards,
    BiR
     
    #117 Baptist in Richmond, Jul 20, 2005
  18. Baptist in Richmond

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    Did I make such disparaging comments as you have? Nope.

    This shows your complete and total ignorance of me, doesn't it? I am a Republican, hillclimber, and I have made that very clear. Much like our President, I am a Republican, but I am not a conservative.
     
    #118 Baptist in Richmond, Jul 20, 2005
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    #119 Joseph_Botwinick, Jul 20, 2005
  20. Baptist in Richmond

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    The law doesn't cover that.
    She had not been under cover for the last 5 years, the time period for which the law covers. </font>[/QUOTE]So, I can only assume you are saying that it is not against the law to take down anyone who might be associated with undercover agents. Amazing.....
     
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