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I am not sure why the puritans or reformers are problematic?

I have seem some quotes by wesley that were good, but Not as sharp as the puritans.I would not mention Dave Hunt with any of those men, based on the small sampling of his ideas.

 

I understand the parrot part, but comparing the writings of dead theologians to comic books is ridiculous, no offense. And you have it wrong. The bible is the only source of revelation, but it is inspired by the Holy Spirit, and it illuminates by the power of the Holy Spirit. You can read the bible all day long and not understand it if the Holy Spirit doesn't give you light. God has used and will use men to preach the word and expound upon it just as Philip did for the Ethiopian Eunich.

Finally, the bible doesn't say anything anywhere about understanding Christianity. The bible was written to reveal God to man, and His great salvation through His son Jesus Christ.

 

Yes Bski you are correct. Some persons have the idea that no one else had the Holy Spirit or a bible, but them or until them.Then they want people to read what they write instead of the men who were gifted and trained by God
That does not seem to make sense ,does it?:laugh:

 

Here is the inspired word for you;


14 But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth.

15 This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish.

16 For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work.

 

No...just describing your root problem as I see it.....you brought strife in here when there was none. You have a problem with me...as I told you last year.Now your running your mouth about it plain and simple. I just am calling you on it.

 

You started it on two different threads as you did a year ago. Own up to it or try and deny it...it is in print as it unfolded. two moderators and three others saw it as I have.
I told you the same thing then as now....you go your way, I will go mine.

 

oh yeah...I am worried. Saturneptune is there...lol

 

The glory that is spoken of in these scripture has to do with eternal glory. Example: A christian might say, i am going to glory when i die.

 

Gal 6:14 God forbid that i should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ. In 1 Cor chapter one the scripture speaks of God calling the foolish things, the weak things, base things and despised things that no flesh should glory in his presence. That according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord. Isaiah 42:8 I am the Lord: that is my name: and my glory will i not give to another. Psalmist David said in Psa 115:1 Not unto us, O Lord, not unto us, but unto thy name give glory, for thy mercy and for thy truth's sake. Does what you believe cause you to bow down to God's will in the crisis of your life or does what you believe about God cause you to question God in crisis or question your self, as, could i have done more for God and this wouldn't of happened. Some belief's causes a person to constantly look inwardly for answers instead of saying, it is the Lord, i will submitt my will unto his will.

 

Herald, are you calling me arrogant and misinformed? Arrogant and misinformed for what reason? Because I have a different theology than you? Is it because I place the Word of God above the writings of men? Do you not know that the Roman Catholic Church uses the same line of reasoning and methods to defend their theology that Icon uses to defend his? Did you know that?

Are the commentaries, (some of which I use) inspired and or God breathed? Did you know that the writings of the early church fathers are not Scripture? Did you know that the reformed creeds are not given by God for the teaching, reproof, correction, and training in righteousness to equip the believer for every good work?

Perhaps your comments are for another post not mine? If so, who do you direct your thoughts to?

 

Everyone does have the Holy Spirit, but everyone is not good about trying the spirits and seeing if something is really coming from God. Satan'a greatest feats are not in the bars, they are in the church. False doctrine, causing division, etc. Divison is inevitable between Christians and non-Christians as Jesus said as much in Matthew 10: 34, but division in churches is sometimes the work of the flesh and Satan.
Men of past faithfulness in the church have written some solid theological documents, don't be so quick to dismiss them. After all, when Paul wrote his epistles, they were not canonized yet, but the writing of an apostle, which should and did hold weight. In other words they weren't part of the bible yet. Given your disdain for the writings of men, I wonder had you been there that you might have dismissed them, especially if you were doing the things he wrote to correct. Just a thought. I understand the writings of theologians are not inspired, but the Holy Spirit has used some in my life to help illuminate scripture. If we did not have any background to the bible to put into proper context, then it would be much more difficult to fully understand where the writers were coming from. I also understand that I dismiss some things theologians write as they are more opinion that dogma. I am spiritual enough to understand the difference. We are told to hide the word of God in our heart that we might not sin against God. Creeds and doctrines that come from the word of God are worth hiding in our hearts as well, don't you think?

 

"But not as sharp as the Puritans."
"I would not mention Dave Hunt."

It shows your bias. It shows that you already are looking at Scripture through rose-colored eyes before you even begin your study. Things, looked at in that way, can only be interpreted one way. And in that way your mind forever remains closed.

 

That is my point exactly.

It is a shame to make someone feel guilty or ashamed for doing things for the glory to come given God through Jesus Christ the glory and say they are working or earning their way to heaven. It is a shame to stop what God is doing through us for the bad apples. It is not God alone but we are fellow workers.

1 Corinthians 3 :
5 What then is Apollos? And what is Paul? Servants through whom you believed, even as the Lord gave opportunity to each one. 6 I planted, Apollos watered, but God was causing the growth. 7 So then neither the one who plants nor the one who waters is anything, but God who causes the growth. 8 Now he who plants and he who waters are one; but each will receive his own [Or wages]reward according to his own labor. 9 For we are God’s fellow workers; you are God’s [Or cultivated land]field, God’s building.