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Living the life after Arminianism

Discussion in '2000-02 Archive' started by Abiyah, Jul 28, 2002.

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  1. Abiyah

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    Having recently exited Arminianism, I find that I
    have a few questions about living the life of a
    believer. While life has not changed much since
    leaving, there is certainly a new freedom, but at
    the same time, a new recognition of my imperfec-
    tions to which I was blind before. The result
    is that I feel like a child in some matters.

    I recognize that when I see sin in my life, I must
    bring it directly to ourr Lord for forgiveness,
    admitting what I had done, and rejecting it as a
    future option. But what if I go a whole day with-
    out seeing things? (Boy, I feel silly asking this.)
    Do you just pray daily for forgiveness of sins
    that you don't even know you have committed?
    If you don't know what you have done, how can
    they be corrected?

    I know that I can never be absolutely perfect
    while on this earth; this is not feasible. But . . .
    well, maybe I will take this with the questions
    already aasked and let the rest go for now. 8o)

    I immediately request that no one try to bring me
    back toward Arminianism. I am not interested in
    reading any more about it, having been Arminian
    for 50 years. Please, be kind.

    [ July 28, 2002, 07:15 PM: Message edited by: Abiyah ]
     
    #1 Abiyah, Jul 28, 2002
  2. Monergist

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    I've asked some of the same questions you're asking. I would recommend any books you can find by Jerry Bridges; start with The Pursuit of Holiness. He isn't Arminian ;) , and what he writes is both sound and practical. I think you'll enjoy and benefit from these.

    Also very good is Future Grace by John Piper.
     
    #2 Monergist, Jul 28, 2002
  3. Abiyah

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    Thank you, Timothy. I believe I have that book in my
    personal library--one of the many I always in-
    tended to read. 8o) I will try it.

    Change that! I just checked, and I have it!
    Thank you!

    [ July 29, 2002, 12:38 AM: Message edited by: Abiyah ]
     
    #3 Abiyah, Jul 29, 2002
  4. tfisher

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    I don't know that just generally asking God for forgivess is effective in a Christian's life. I don't think forgiveness is the real issue, since that was dealt with at the moment of salvation. Confession of sin, I think, is us agreeing with God about our sin so it can be corrected. Therefore, if we don't confess specific sins, I don't think we have much benefit to our confession. What do we do about sins that we don't know we commit? When I pray, I ask God to reveal them to me. Then I be quiet and listen. It usually doesn't take long for the Holy Spirit to reveal several. If they are not revealed during prayer, most of the time they will surface when reading the Bible.

    By the way, another good book is "Eternal Security" by Charles Stanley.

    I hope this helps.
     
    #4 tfisher, Aug 3, 2002
  5. pinoybaptist

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    Hello, Abiyah.
    Try John Mc'Arthur's website at grace to you or you can also go to pb.organd click on "writings".
    God bless you, friend.
     
    #5 pinoybaptist, Aug 3, 2002
  6. Dr. Bob

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    Agree. A MacArthur Study Bible is about the single best tool for some "recovering" arminians.

    Isn't revelling in God's sovereignty a joy? It just gives a freedom one can never know when bound by false teaching . . . ;)
     
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  7. Abiyah

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    Thank you, everyone, for your list of books. I
    will tell you this, though: when, as an Arminian,
    the truth of this began to dawn upon me, it was
    not freeing! It was shocking! When I presented
    it to my adult children and their spouses after-
    ward, they were totaly taken aback, but both of
    my children later acknowledged to me that they
    saw what I meant.

    Exiting Arminianism is not easy, because years
    of being taught that Calvinists are deceived and
    cannot walk in "victory," certainly take their toll.
    Tthe peace does come, though, with the realiza-
    tion that it is not up to me.

    Again, thank you, everyone! 8o)
     
    #7 Abiyah, Aug 3, 2002
  8. pinoybaptist

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    "It is not up to me ."

    Yes, never up to us. And that also takes the frustration out of preaching salvation, doing the altar call, and seeing no one respond. Because after all, it is not up to us. Our task is to preach the Word, and let God do His work !

    It relieves us of the worry: "Did I not present the gospel correctly ?" "Have I not been eloquent enough ?" "Am I really 'anointed' or 'called' to preach ?" "I failed !".

    When we realize God is in control, and that He has His eyes set upon His own people, and calls them in His time, and works on them in His way and place, then we come to realize, it is not "I",
    but "He".
    Hallelujah to the Son of God !!
     
    #8 pinoybaptist, Aug 3, 2002
  9. KenH

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    The first part of the book on the preservation of the saints is excellent. [​IMG] But be careful about the latter part of the book. He has some rather weird eschatology in it.

    Ken

    [ August 03, 2002, 10:05 PM: Message edited by: Ken Hamilton ]
     
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  10. Dr. Bob

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    Ken - how do you define "wierd" eschatology. It is ALL wierd to the unbelieving world! :eek:

    I assumed Stanley to be a pre-trib, pre-mil. Enlighten me! :confused:
     
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  11. tfisher

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    Stanley is pre-trib, pre-mil; but, I can't remember picking that up from this particular book. Where was the eschatology? It has been a while since I have read the book.
     
    #11 tfisher, Aug 4, 2002
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