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Lower than the angels? Does the KJV weaken Christ?

Discussion in '2005 Archive' started by David J, Mar 19, 2005.

  1. Askjo

    Askjo New Member

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    Ed, look at the TR Greek text on Hebrews 2:7:

    ηλαττωσας αυτον βραχυ τι παρ αγγελους δοξη και τιμη εστεφανωσας αυτον και κατεστησας αυτον επι τα εργα των χειρων σου

    What does this verse say?
     
  2. Ed Edwards

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    This verse says the same thing that the
    LXX says NOT what the Hebrew source says.

    Here is what Strongs says:

    G32
    ἄγγελος
    aggelos
    ang'-el-os
    From ἀγγέλλω aggellō (probably derived from G71; compare G34; to bring tidings); a messenger; especially an “angel”; by implication a pastor: - angel, messenger.
     
  3. Ed Edwards

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    Sorry, i can't edit that last post because
    you can't edit unicode here???

    Psalm 8:5 is the verse where 'angel' is
    taken from the LXX rather than from
    the Hebrew source.

    The LXX is the pre-Christian era (i.e. B.C.)
    translation of the Old Testament into
    Greek. Because of the Greek-ification of the
    middle east by Alexandria, Jesus had access
    probably only to LXX and not to Hebrew
    originals. How about that [​IMG] Jesus had to
    use a translation instead of the native language
    original writing.

    We notice the Catholics agree with your KJV:

    Psalms 8:5 (The Douay-Rheims Bible):
    Thou hast made him a little less than the angels,
    thou hast crowned him with glory and honour:

    [ May 18, 2005, 09:01 AM: Message edited by: Ed Edwards ]
     
  4. servant-96

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    Amen!
     
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    Yes you can and should. Before the cross his humanity was mortal, born of woman, flesh, alive via oxygenated blood, subject to death.

    Post-cross, He is now the first born human being of the resurrection, immortal, glorified and seated at the right hand of the Father, never to die again and one day we will follow Him and share in His resurrection.

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