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Man- willful in rebellion, not willing for salvation

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Mexdeaf, Jan 10, 2011.

  1. Mexdeaf

    Mexdeaf New Member

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    True or false?
     
  2. Cypress

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    Mexdeaf,
    I will gladly go this far with you "it depends upon having a perfect Savior "!
    I think I can go with "translate ME!" but that can have several meanings.
     
  3. Mexdeaf

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    Cypress,

    I apologize for my confusing OP. The "true or not" statement was referring to the title of the thread: Man- willful in rebellion, not willing for salvation. Is that a true or false statement and why.
     
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    Mexdeaf,
    Equally at fault here....laughing at myself as I reply. I will bite and say that those who are willing for salvation will have it, converse for the unwilling.
     
  5. Winman

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    The question cannot be answered that simply. Before I was saved, I believed you had to be good to go to heaven. Now this is error, but I was just a simple boy, and this was what I had been taught. I really didn't know better. I was not rebellious toward this, I wanted to be good, I wanted to please God and go to heaven. I believed the Devil evil and certainly didn't want to follow him.

    When I heard the gospel, I realized I had been taught error. I learned that even one sin was enough to send me to hell. I didn't rebel against this because the preacher showed this in the Bible, and I believed the Bible was true. When the preacher told and showed me from the scriptures that Jesus died for my sins, I didn't rebel against that either, in fact, I had a great desire to pray and receive him as Savior.

    I can't speak for others, but most children will gladly receive Jesus. In fact, statistics prove that most Christians become so as children, and that the older a person is the more likely they will reject Christ.

    But I couldn't have been saved unless I first heard the word of God.
     
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    And further, if you are trying to prove all men are rebellious against the gospel, you won't see that in scripture. Many thousands of people followed Jesus everywhere he went. We know 5000 men, not counting women and children followed Jesus for three continuous days without eating into the wilderness to hear him preach. That doesn't sound rebellious to me.
     
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    You don't believe that all are dead in their sins as Ephesians 2 and Colossians 2 tell us?
     
  8. Mexdeaf

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    I do. Many people followed Jesus and yet joined the crowd crying out to crucify him.
     
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    Following a crowd what many do, but following a crowd following Jesus does not mean you are drawn to the Son by the Father. Only those who listen and learn from the Father trough Jesus and His word come to Him
     
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    Yes, but many continued to follow Jesus. How many were present at Pentacost? 120. And it is fairly safe to believe there were many more who were not present that day.

    All a person has to do is open their eyes. Many tens of thousands of people attend revivals seeking God, just as thousands followed Jesus. Are all sincere? No, but many are.
     
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