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  1. Alex2165

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    3. And some Pharisees came to Him testing Him and saying, 'Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any cause at all?' (See also: Deceiving).
    7. They said to Him, 'Why then did Moses command to give her a Certificate of Divorce (Deuteronomy 24.4) and send her away?'

    ~ 7. *Bill of divorcement. Literally, “a document of cutting off.” Both the conclusion of an agreement (Deuteronomy 29.13) and its dissolution were described by the word (פרת).
    The Torah. A Modern Commentary. Edited by W. Gunther Plaut.

    ~ 7. *Bill of divorcement. Literally, "a writing of cutting off," a certificate of total separation from her with whom he had hitherto lived 'as one flesh" (Genesis 2.24). The later name for the document was (גס). Divorce was no longer to be at the arbitrary will and pleasure of the husband and by mere word of mouth, but upon reason given and by means of a formal document which demanded the intervention of a public authority. The marriage bond is holy; but whilst it is inviolable, it is not indissoluble.
    The Pentateuch and Haftorahs. Edited by Dr. J. H. Hertz, C.H.


    ~ 7. *Bill of divorcement. A certificate of divorce, now known as a "get" (Aramaic for "legal document," from a Sumerian term meaning "oblong tablet). Various ancient Near Eastern documents indicate that the certificate probably was a statement by the husband to the effect that the couple is no longer husband and wife and that she is free to marry whoever she wishes. The term translated as "divorcement" (k'ritut) literally means 'severance.) Some commentators conjecture that the term did not originally refer to the severance of the marriage but to the act of cutting the wife's hem or garment, a ceremonial act of divorce known from Mesopotamia.
    Etz Hayim. Torah and Commentary.


    8. He said to them, 'Because of your hardness of heart Moses permitted you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it has not been this way.
    9. And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for immorality, and marries another woman, commits adultery.'
    ~ 9. *Marrying the Divorcee. (Deuteronomy 24.4) (Jeremiah 3.1) (Malachi 2.13-16) (Matthew 5.31-32, 19.3-9-12) (Luke 16.18) (1Corinthians 7.1-10-17.25-39-40) (Romans 7.3).

    16."I have hate divorce" Malachi 2.16

    10. The disciples said to Him, 'If the relationship of the man with his wife is like this, it is better not to marry.'
    11. But He said to them, 'Not all men can accept this statement, but only those to whom it has been given.
    12. There are *eunuchs who were born that way from their mother's womb, and there are eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the Kingdom of Heaven. He who is able to accept this, let him accept it.'

    ~ 12. *Eunuch. A male servant of a royal household. Such servants were often emasculated by castration as a precautionary measure, especially if they served among the women in a ruler's harem (2Kings 9.32) (Esther 2.15).
    The New Testament reported the conversion of a eunuch from Ethiopia under the ministry of Philip the evangelist (Acts 8.26-38).
    Nelson's Compact Bible Dictionary. Ronald F. Youngblood, F.F. Bruce, R.K. Harrison.


    ~ Eunuch. A castrated male. From the employment of such men as custodians of the royal harems the term came to designate an officer, whether physically a eunuch or not. Hebrew saris is translated variously officer, chamberlain, and eunuch (Genesis 37.36) (2Kings 23.1) (Isaiah 56.3) (Jeremiah 29.2).

    The Mosaic Law forbade those blemishes by castration to enter the congregation (Deuteronomy 23.1), but Isaiah prophesied of a day when this disability would be removed, and their loss compensated (Isaiah 56.3-5).
    In English, eunuch is a translation of Greek eunouchos. The Ethiopian (Acts 8.27-39) was a queen's treasurer in whom Isaiah's prophecy may well have encouraged a new hope. our Lord uses the term and its cognate verb four times in Matthew 19.12, those born eunuchs and those made eunuchs by men are physically incapable of begetting children; those who "renounced marriage because of the Kingdom of Heaven" are those whom continence has kept chaste and celibate so they may concentrate their lives on promoting the Kingdom of Heaven (Revelation 14.4).
    The eminent though erratic Christian scholar Origen late in life regretted taking Matthew 19.12 literally.
    The New International Dictionary of the Bible. J. D. Douglas, Merrill C. Tenney.


    ~ 12. Eunuchs (Heb. saris, Gr. eunouchos). Traditional view on eunuchs is quite distorted. They are certainly servants but not mutilated. The proof of that can be found in this verse 12.

    ~ "There are *eunuchs who were born." Not a single case known in the Bible where a newborn male was castrated, or by any other ritual known to mankind. But born as a slave (servant), this is very common practice among human beings.

    ~ "there are eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men." Most likely by some vow of Nazirite or some other kind of tradition, oath, or promise that required person to abstain from marriage and subsequently children, temporary or for life. Similar case happened with the daughter of Jephthah (Judges 11.34-40).

    ~ "there are eunuchs who made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the Kingdom of Heaven." Does the Bible have any requirement to mutilate or emasculated by castration a male for the sake of the Kingdom of Heaven? Really? How ridiculous it can be to even think about this. The Ordinances of GOD concerning priest specify certain condition what not allowed certain physical defects, mutilations or any other form of physical deformity to serve before Him as priests, included those with "crushed testicles" (Deuteronomy 23.1) (Leviticus 21.16-20).

    If a priest with such defect is not allowed to serve the Lord, how much more the self-mutilation of this organ can be done for the sake of the Kingdom of GOD?

    These last words of Christ certainly relate to conditions that Christ placed on His followers written in: (Matthew 10.37-38, 16.24) (Mark 8.34) (Luke 9.23, 14.26-27.33) where the Christ urged us not attach ourselves to our families but leave everything behind and follow Him. He always comes first and the family second. Means that those who have no family on their own, they may dedicate their entire life only to Him.
    A.G.


    ~ 12. This Statement may also relate to 144.000 mentioned in Revelation. (Revelation 7.4-8, 14.1.3-5) See similar theme concerning Nazirites: (Numbers 6.1-21) (Judges 13.3-5) (1Samuel 1.11.22.28) (Amos 2.11-12).
     
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    Where is no question.

    In today environment in which certain Christian values have been completely discarded and traditions and doctrines of the church overrule the Biblical Statutes and Commandments, it would be useful and helpful to remind Christians about certain important regulations concerning personal life what required from a true Christian to observe and obey.

    So, I hope that my post reflects this certain need for some to remember and reflect their own life in the light of the Biblical Principals and Ideals, very much like my other posts intended to do.

    With all due respect.

    Alex.
     
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    So it's just a blog. Got it.
     
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    Granted - many Christians do get divorced?
    Are you asking what we should do about
    Are you suggesting that Christians stay in a bad marriage
    Are you suggesing that Christians only seperate - but not divorce (which means no remarriage)
    Are you suggesting that some Christians get married to soon
    a) not knowing enough about each other
    b) not realizing they have different goals
    ie: she wants the picket fence - perfect house -and live there until the grand-kids arrive
    he wants a top level job & may be expected ot move several times as he gets promoted
    c) did not realize conflicts with potential in-laws
    d) ect, ect
     
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    You are really jump on this issue, do you Salty?

    Well, I will be frank with you.

    You can say and do whatever you want and all those who use excuses and reasons to divorce or to marry the divorcee, but the Commandments of the Lord never changing Commandments and always remain the same.

    Yes, all of us have free choice, and we do whatever we want.

    But again, I would like to tell you and emphasize that the Statutes of Christ will always remain the same, forever, no matter what the circumstances and what the excuses are.

    No wonder such people who preaching good things but do not do what they preach, Christ called hypocrites.

    Matthew 23.2-4.15.24.28
    2. saying, 'The scribes and the Pharisees (our pastors, priests, and teachers) have seated themselves in the chair of Moses,

    3. therefore, all that they tell you, do and observe,
    but do not do according to their deeds, they say things and do not do them
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    4. And they tie up heavy loads and lay them on men's shoulders, but they themselves are unwilling to move them with so much as a finger.

    15. Woe to you scribes and Pharisees hypocrites, because you travel about on sea and land, to make one *proselyte (convert), and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell (word hell sometimes replaced by the word gehenna, in some American and Russian Bibles) as yourselves.

    24. You blind guides, who strain out a gnat and swallow a camel!

    28. Even so, you too outwardly appear righteous to men, but inwardly you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness.

    Many pastors and many missionaries today preach and teach Words of GOD, but they do not touch these issues I mentioned here, and keep their mouth shut about Statutes of GOD that they themselves breaking or ignoring.

    And I tell you even more, whoever teach others but themselves breaking the Statutes of the Lord, any Statute, is a hypocrite.
     
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    Since there was no question in the OP - I attempted to ask some to get the discussion going.

    and it would be interesting to have some answers to the specif questions I asked.
     
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    Yes, you asked specific questions, and I will be short and gave you also specific answer.

    Matthew 5.27-28.31-32
    27. You have heard that it was said, 'You shall not commit adultery,' (Exodus 20.14) (Deuteronomy 5.18).

    28. but I say to you, that everyone who looks on a woman to lust for her, has committed adultery with her already in his heart.

    31. And it was said, 'Whoever sends his wife away, let him give her a Certificate of Divorce,' (Deuteronomy 24.1-4) (Matthew 5.31, 19.4-7-8-12) (Mark 10.2-4-5-12)

    32. *but I say to you, that everyone who divorces his wife,
    except for the cause of unchastity
    (unfaithfulness),
    makes her commit adultery, and who ever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.

    ~ 31-32. *Marriage to Divorcee: (Deuteronomy 24.4) (Jeremiah 3.1) (Malachi 2.13-16) (Matthew 5.31-32, 19.3-9-12) (Luke 16.18) (1Corinthians 7.1-10-17.25-39-40) (Romans 7.3).

    It couldn't be more specific than that.
     
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