Mary Queen of Heaven? What?

Is there any scriptural basis for referring to Mary with the exalted title, "Queen of heaven"? The key is found in a strange and hidden place. In the greeting of Elizabeth to Mary at the visitation, we find her addressing Mary as a queen. She says, "Whence is it the Mother of my Lord should come me?" In Middle Eastern royal courts that title "Mother of my Lord" was reserved for one person, the queen mother, the mother of the king, who often ranked immediately after him in court protocol. What is remarkable here is that the older woman addresses a teenage girl with this senior regal title. She only does this because she is inspired by God to recognize that the virgin of Nazareth is pregnant with the Messiah, the King of Israel, Jesus the anointed One, the "Christ". But also note that she does not call him "the Lord", the title Luke also uses because it arose among the earliest Christians as the title of the risen triumphant Jesus, Kyrios, Lord of life and death. Elizabeth says "my Lord", the language of courtiers in any royal court of the time when referring to their monarch. Mary's queenship thus points directly to her Son, and is derived only from him. She is not a consort, but a Queen mother.

The other scriptural justification for the Marian title "Queen of heaven" is in Revelation 12, where we see the vision of the woman clothed with the sun, the moon beneath her feet, crowned with twelve stars. This is a complex double image - Mary, for she brings forth the Messiah child - and the Church, for she is persecuted by the devil, a dragon in the vision. Nonetheless, Mary is depicted as the queen of the universe.

It is also interesting that perhaps the oldest painting of Mary, in the Roman catacombs, shows her enthroned with her Son on her lap as the Magi approach. In the Fifth Century this was carved on the door of the basilica of Santa Sabina on the Aventine Hill in Rome but now the throne has a set of steps. This imagery reappears and develops in many later paintings, mosaics and statues up to our own times. The "Virgin enthroned" or the crowned Virgin is Mary the Queen.

 

When Elisabeth said "mother of my Lord" she literally meant the mother of her Lord. To read into it some sort of recognition of her as queen is to take something the text never intends. For proof of this look at the next text: "For, lo, as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy." The focus is on the Lord Jesus Christ, not as king, but as Lord. John leaps because his Lord is near. Elisabeth is able to understand this by the Holy Ghost and thus calls Mary the "mother of my Lord."

As far as Rev 12 goes, although there is maybe an allusion to Mary in the sense that she physically brought forth Christ and they were threatened by Herod and had to flee to Egypt, I think the vision is chiefly speaking of the church in the times of John and thereafter under great persecution. The source of this persecution is clearly shown - the dragon.

 

Absolutely. The Catholic Cult of Rome does indeed consider her to be "Queen of Heaven".

And as is clearly evident, they worship their Goddess accordingly. :tear:

 

Annsni...

This is Catholicsm. Goddess worship, Salvation through works. Salvation through Mary. Salvation through the Rosary. Salvation through Sacraments. Salvation through Baptism. Salvation by the Church. Salvation through "saints" who have been dead for centuries. Salvation through scapulars and icons, etc etc etc.

Salvation by practically anything and everything...except

Justification through Faith alone in Christ alone.

The Gospel of Jesus Christ.

The Catholic church of Rome has placed their CURSE upon the saving gospel. (justification by faith alone)

 

The Catholic Church does not teach that salvation is through anything else than the shed blood of Jesus Christ.

 

What does the RCC teach when it says: "You must be born again."

 

Seems silly but harmless. Is anyone going to end up in Hell because they said the Rosary? I think not.

Any of you think you will be inviting St. Mary over for coffee and donuts?

 

Who would invite a dead person to do anything??
The only person I can think of to invite dead people is when Benny Hinn told his followers to put their dead loved ones (presumably loved ones who had recently died) in front of their TV sets during his next campaign, and touch the TV screen and they would be raised from the dead!!

Of course it never came to pass. He is a charlatan.
To think that Mary is alive is also erroneous doctrine.
She is still in the grave, and her body well putrefied, if not completely ashes.

 

Lori, you said...

Faith alone, in the shed blood of Christ?

Lets see if thats true...

(bolding mine)

God have mercy.


http://www.catholicdoors.com/faq/qu15.htm

 

This is interesting. They say the Apostle's creed as part of the rosary?? how old is the Apostle's creed? It mentions the "communion of the saints" which the RCC interprets specifically as prayers to the dead.

If they are communicating with the dead - no wonder that Rosary quote box in the OP is as it is.

The assumption of Mary is in the Rosary??

The "coronation of Mary in heaven"??

No wonder that quote box in the OP!!

in Christ,

Bob

 

FATIMA PRAYER: Most Holy Trinity - Father, Son, and Holy Spirit - I adore thee profoundly. I offer Thee the most precious Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Jesus Christ, present in all the tabernacles of the world, in reparation for the outrages, sacrileges and indifferences whereby He is offended. And through the infinite merits of His Most Sacred Heart and the Immaculate Heart of Mary, I beg of Thee the conversion of poor sinners.

 

And since the Apostles Creed is part of the Rosary --

Getting the information from the source is always helpful.

in Christ,

Bob

 

The Reformations (yes,plural) indeed happened for good reason. :saint:
(I have more to say about devotion to Mary, and hope to do so later)

 

Christ is Risen!

I'm not sure if this thread is about the Roman Catholic "Rosary" or about Mary's title as "Queen of Heaven"...since I'm Orthodox Christian and we don't recite a "Rosary",...I'll just comment on the "Queen of Heaven...

Here's what Orthodox Church Teaches:

A) The Queenship of Mary refers to Mary’s royal dignity as Mother of the King of Kings, Jesus Christ. It is a simple, straightforward relationship, found in the pages of scripture. That title takes nothing away from Jesus’ Kingship, but rather is a consequence of it.

1) Psalm 45:9 refers to the Queen Mother standing at the king’s right hand, arrayed in gold. Hebrews 1:8-9 applies this psalm to Jesus as Messianic King. By extension, Psalm 45:9 would then apply prophetically to the Messianic King’s Mother, Mary.

2) The New Testament: These texts provide the Old Testament background to Mary’s role in the New Testament. At the Annunciation, the angel Gabriel announced to Mary that she would conceive and bear a son whom she would name Jesus. Then Gabriel declared, The Lord God will give him the throne of his David his father, and he will rule over the house of Jacob forever, and of his kingdom there will be no end (Lk 1:32-33). Since Jesus is certainly the Messianic King, it follows that Mary’s role is that of the Queen Mother of the Messianic King. This explains why St. Elizabeth, filled with the Holy Spirit, would say to her younger cousin, Most blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb. And how does this happen to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? (Lk 1:43).

3) This is the language of the royal court, with the subordinate (Elizabeth) addressing a royal superior (Mary). Elizabeth was honored, not merely by the presence, in utero, of the child Jesus, but also by Mary herself. Elizabeth said, Who am I that the Mother of my Lord should come to me? Elizabeth was honored by the presence of Mary because she is the Queen Mother of the Messianic King, Elizabeth’s Lord.

In XC
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