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Matt 24:30 & 36:64 - 2nd Coming or Ascension?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Greektim, Mar 22, 2012.

  1. Greektim

    Greektim Well-Known Member

    May 22, 2010
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    Given that Jesus is here alluding to Daniel 7:13. Compare:

    Mat 24:30 Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

    Mat 26:64 Jesus said to him, "You have said so. But I tell you, from now on you will see the Son of Man seated at the right hand of Power and coming on the clouds of heaven."


    Dan 7:13 "I saw in the night visions, and behold, with the clouds of heaven there came one like a son of man, and he came to the Ancient of Days and was presented before him.

    If this is obvious (and it appears it is), then how would this change the way we read Matt. 24?
  2. asterisktom

    asterisktom Well-Known Member
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    May 29, 2007
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    It changes it to a great degree, not only Matt. 24, but the oft-neglected other Olivet discourses in the Gospels. I don't believe it is a 2nd Coming passage, but an Ascension verse. This passage informs the whole nature of the Kingdom of Zion, the Heavenly Jerusalem.

    BTW, this connection that you mention demonstrated to me once again, when someone had pointed it out to me, how important it is to study out OT - NT connections. Especially those that are clearly citations, as here.

    Not surprisingly, it is just such studies that are, well, studiously neglected today. The result? Full-blown futurism.